RED Cambook

[Luis Ortiz]

Sounds like a good value to me. Why would one need to use the additional 6 over-saturated color chips, though?

 

[jimhare]

Proper charts are expensive. Why?

My guess is because they aren't just printed like a normal book. There would be highly specialized printing hardware followed by strict verification of each and possibly a real number of rejects that are destroyed.

After they go through all that they aren't going to sell 50,000, they will probably sell 1,000 because it's a small market.

I don't think the price is shocking at all. You know what a good follow focus costs and that's just some metal and plastic gears. Like $75 worth of parts in a $4,000 unit.

I'd like to know about the price, too. I was shocked at $425. I would have expected no more than $100. What do you get that is so special for your $425?

Stephen

 

[Graeme Nattress]

They cost because they're hard to print accurate and they're checked to ensure every colour on the chart is completely correct before they go out the door of DSC Labs. They take accuracy very seriously.

Graeme

 

[Matthew Rogers]

Just fyi... filmtools.com has the new RED Cambook for $399.95 + shipping.

 

[Tony Lorentzen]

Yep: http://www.filmtools.com/dsc-labs-red-cambook.html

 

[Brook Willard]

$429.95 now.

 

[Alex MacLean]

sweet! there on the red store now to

http://www.red.com/store/790-0123

 

[Noah Kadner]

Loverly- NEED.

Noah

 

[Matt Gottshalk]

working on that... ( quite seriously )

WHOA!:emote_22_yikes:

 

[Chris Parker]

here's a question that is somewhat related. but not really. anyways.....

when using single link HD SDI out of the red rocket, in YUV color space, at any bit rate, when fed to a scope, the blacks are raised and the whites are lowered by about 8% each, so if grading to that output, unless switching the rocket to RGB, it seems the levels will not match, as when we bring the footage into AVID after processing (or look at it via the RGB setting for out put on the rocket) the blacks go back to 0 and the whites back to 100. (on the YUV output the scope showed the blacks around 9 and the whites around 91.

i'm hoping i am just missing something simple, but figured i'd post in this thread.

 

[Corrado Silveri]

Why my thoughts is about a dedicate calibration module in RC-X?

Could be ideal "first step" for a one light CC...

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

working on that... ( quite seriously )

So when does RED just stop caring about perfection in its lenses and just rely on the quality of its sensors?

"So it breaths a little? So what! We have 20k resolution it'll be a little softer after digital correction."

It would seem like with a sufficiently accurate chart and characterization methodology we could use just about any lens we want and still get good geometry and mechanics.

 

[Jon Chema]

We just got in the new RED/DSC labs RED Cambook Test Charts.

We worked closely DSC labs to make the perfect group of test charts for use with the RED camera.

8 x 11.5" Wire bound book that includs a custom calibrated ChromaDuMondewith an additional 6 over-saturated color chips orchestrated by our own Graeme Natress,
as well as 2 framing charts ( one of them with a 18% grey background) that cover 2:1, HD and 4.5k Wide formats unique to the RED.

Price is $425 for the book, will be in the RED.com store by the end of the day monday.

$425 bucks for a book? Am I missing something here? Why does it cost so much? How is this gonna help me?

 

[Damien Molineaux]

Nice, compared to DSC charts, price is cheap. It would have been nice to also have a focus chart in that book.

Cheers,
Damien

 

[Michael Wiegand]

$425 bucks for a book? Am I missing something here? Why does it cost so much? How is this gonna help me?

Hi folks, I think the best thing I can do to answer a number of questions is to post the following link to a SMPTE paper our President did http://www.dsclabs.com/Image Optimization 040227.pdf

I think it addresses much of the how and why and more.

As for a back focus chart, please download your free one here and print it yourself, just DO NOT white balance with it!! http://www.dsclabs.com/images/Free Charts/DSC Complimentary back focus 060920.pdf

We have a client who is a Church and he had his printed on a drafting plotter 5 feet wide.

Thanks,

Michael Wiegand
Sales Manager
DSC Labs

 

[Michael Wiegand]

Hmmm, but a chart like this is still useful even if you don't have a Red yet, right?

Hi Alex, here is a link about that question, the cost etc. from Ben Cain http://www.negativespaces.com/blog/2010/6/21/dsc-labs-red-cambook.html

Michael
DSC LAbs

 

[Michael Wiegand]

Can I take it underwater?

(okay, I know I can take it underwater - but would it be any good AFTER I take it underwater?)

Just like the iPad works underwater... for a bit.

People have been diving with our charts for a long time now, here is a link to Tom Campbell http://www.dsclabs.com/tom_campbell.htm (scroll to the bottom to see our chart underwater)

However, the RED Cambook has many perforations (so it can be Cerlox bound) and therefore is not a candidate.

Thanks,

Michael
DSC Labs

 

[Ketch Rossi]

I guess some one, does not really understand the Huge value of this book to your work.

I just Ordered, and so should you fellow Reduser!!

 

[Michael McVicar]

Very cool and a good deal. With the trend towards multi-camera and stereo 3D (28 on one shoot on Transformers 3!) calibration is a must. What colorspace contains the Graeme designed saturated colors?

 

[Graeme Nattress]

The super-saturateds sit in REDColor, but are not specifically calibrated to vectorscope hues in the way that the main colours are.

Graeme