Re-grade your footage...

[Joel Arvidsson]

Could someone post a comparison with some ideally exposed skin tones?

There seems to be a far better handling of that delicate shadow saturation and halftone with the new color space and FLUT™ tools.

(Milk girls would be cool, and is a couple years long enough to be nostalgic?)

Yeah the milk girls would be cool!

 

[Manuele Trullu]

This is the first post that REALLY proved the difference to me. Great job!

Impressive! Seems filmed in two different lights set-up!

 

[James Brundige]

RED Alert! has given way to REDCINE-X.

Jim

Too bad, I find Red Alert / Red Rushes much easier to use. I haven't used Red Cine for a while, but it really struggled with batch conversions, and I had a lot of problems with in/out points. Perhaps that's why Red Rocket is becoming a necessity.

 

[vita brevis]

only change between snaps is the orig color space to the new color space and gamma. I think this new color science will really help make the stuff look amazing.

 

[Cal Brunker]

Have played with a few old scenes, loving how much more punch stuff has now. FLUT = awesome.

Can't wait to see more from Redcine-X it's getting pretty slick! Can't wait for Apple to get some new color science and FLUT action.

 

[Sam Taylor]

Too bad, I find Red Alert / Red Rushes much easier to use. I haven't used Red Cine for a while, but it really struggled with batch conversions, and I had a lot of problems with in/out points. Perhaps that's why RED Rocket™ is becoming a necessity.

In and out points are working well for me on Redcine-X.

Also I am very much loving reprocessing at old footage and seeing the difference in noise. It is a joy to use!!!

 

[Lorenzo Straight]

I spent all morning working with the new color science. I love it! Here's some old work:
RGB - REC709

REC709 - REC709

REDSPACE - REDSPACE

REDCOLOR - REDGAMMA

RED COLOR - RED GAMMA W/ FLUT™™™ CONTOL

You really pushed it on that last one, with the, Red flut. Great test results. Very exciting. Thanks for sharing, Justin.

 

[Michael Panfeld]

Jim,

but my last post has exactly the same WB @ 5412K but it's at the another tread:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40074&page=25

Shot on RED1 with Canon 50mm FD L f/1.2 @ wide open f/1.2, REDCINE-X WB, FLUT™™™ and output REDgamma/REDcolor, fluorescent shop lighting

Wow, that brunette is very pretty. who is she?

One REDCine-X question: I see the Beta and Early Beta versions on the download page. Only one of which works on Windows (my system). Which Cine-X program relates to the new LUTs and gamma capabilities?

 

[Kevin G]

Hello everyone, Just out of curiosity (and the fact that i will be experimenting and making boneheaded errors!) why is there no undo feature with this program? Or is there an undo and just don't know what it is...

 

[Bilal Lashari]

does new REDCINE-X support REDRocket?

does new REDCINE-X support REDRocket?

I have a REDRocket card and been using RocketCine-X. If I want to regrade footage I need REDCINE-X right? does that mean i can't use redrocket for redcolor?

 

[Jannard]

I have a REDRocket card and been using RocketCine-X. If I want to regrade footage I need REDCINE-X right? does that mean i can't use redrocket for redcolor?

Your RED Rocket works with REDCINE-X and you can select REDcolor/REDgamma in that app.

Jim

 

[Ramesh Jai]

Regarding white balance - do I now have to white balance everytime instead of leaving it at 5000k? Thanks

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Anna F. shot on RED1 with Canon 50mm FD L f/1.2 @ wide open f/1.2, REDCINE-X WB, FLUT™ and output REDgamma/REDcolor, fluorescent shop lighting.

Wow, that brunette is very pretty. who is she?

One REDCine-X question: I see the Beta and Early Beta versions on the download page. Only one of which works on Windows (my system). Which Cine-X program relates to the new LUTs and gamma capabilities?

Michael,

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[Greg Ephraim]

Am I missing where I can import an XML in redcine-x (build 96)?

 

[Christopher Nagel]

(Re: Page 1 of this thread):

Martin, Subjectively, I like all your "previous" footage better. I think you're losing in the translations somehow... The wrestlers are a bit too magenta, the kid is too blue...
These just my personal feelings...
Chris

 

[Arjun Kumar]

Congrats
red team.

 

[Scott M]

Fabulous example. I'd love to see a RedSpace/RedSpace version to compare as well...

Agreed Brook.

Sorry for the delay, added the RedSpace version to the original post.

 

[Jamie Havill]

Just tried a quick grading on my Windows laptop, never did much outside of WB before. I'm no coloring expert but I like the new interface and I think the new color settings handle skin tones better/"truer". [I only have access to two shots at the moment because of a bad power supply, if this comparison doesn't help highlight the subtle skin tone differences as I think it does, please feel free to delete it]

METADATA Camera RGB/REC709:

Camera RGB/REC709 plus some FLUT™™™ and shadow work:

REDSPACE/REDSPACE plus same range of FLUT™™™ and shadow work:

REDCOLOR/REDGAMMA plus same range of FLUT™™™ and shadow work:

Great! Although, I must admit I prefer the grade on the REDSPACE/REDSPACE processed shot. I am a contrast junkie so this might be besides the point!

 

[Karl H]

I'm not so sure about Red Gamma, for me personally.

I expose to the right as much as I can without clipping, (if I can). Ive been applying Redgamma to a lot of old footage and it seems to overexpose and white-out parts which are in the upper range of the histogram. I've seen a few shots where my skin tones lose all colour and go white - even though the histogram still says there is no clipping after applying RedGamma. I can drag the flut slider down to recover my skin tones, but the shot is now too dark overall.

Grading with the standard rec709 gamma seems to give the smoothest look and my skin tones dont get pushed up to near white. I'm just thinking if I was shooting with redgamma in camera I'd have a tendency to underexpose because of this.

I'm all for options, please keep adding them - just don't lose rec709 ;-)

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Karl, that's fair enough - because if you used a particular gamma to make exposure decisions, it would seem reasonable that such a curve would be a good point to start with, especially if you're at ISO320. Now was you go up higher ISOs, REDgamma being brighter means you don't need to go up as high an ISO.

REC709 being kept on - don't worry there.

Graeme