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RCX v51 Beta 3 Release

Jarred Land

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Public Beta - Windows Only

NVIDIA BUILD!!!!

https://www.red.com/downloads/options?itemInternalId=16144&version=2


Release Notes:
Added: Accelerated R3D decompression on supported NVIDIA CUDA GPUs
Added: Image Noise Reduction Panel
• Chroma Noise Reduction in IPP2 (On/Off) [Full Demosaic Only]
• Flashing Pixels (Off, Mild, Medium, Strong)
• NOTE: To add/remove panels, right click-on panel area to reveal drop down to select appropriate panel
Added: HDR support for select AJA and Blackmagic Design devices
Added: Viewer Window IPP2 / Primary Development Only view toggle
Added: REDline CDL export
Added: REDline Primary Development Only export
Added: Startup splash screen
Enhanced: Cleaned up the default REDCINE-X Pro Home Page
Enhanced: ProRes 4444 XQ no longer restricted to just log output
Enhanced: ProRes encoder now sets Rec.2020 and HDR-2084 metadata
Enhanced: Creative 3D LUT ALT-key Preview mode lock
Fixed: RMD file Creative 3D LUT fixes

Overview:
Significantly improved 8K playback and transcode performance on NVIDIA CUDA GPUs *
NEW Chroma Noise Reduction Algorithm [Full Demosaic Only - IPP2 Only] *
• Algorithm is designed to tastefully remove chroma noise while fully preserving image detail
• Works as part of the demosaic and thus does not blur the chroma
• Provides an improvement over D.E.B by reducing color shift in the deepest of shadows, allowing for use in very high ISO environments
• Part of the upcoming R3D SDK for NLEs
NEW Adjustable Flashing Pixels Algorithm (Off, Mild, Medium, Strong) [Full Demosaic Only] *
• Algorithm removes random flashing pixels without any loss of detail, as is typical in other traditional noise reduction techniques
• Targets pixels in the RAW data ahead of the demosaic
• Part of the upcoming R3D SDK for NLEs
Added: HDR support for select AJA and Blackmagic Design devices
• Selecting 2084 or HLG as gamma option auto-enables HDR for AJA & BMD (if supported)
Cleaned up the default REDCINE-X Pro Home Page
Additional bugs and improvements


* Part of upcoming R3D SDK Release


NOTES:
• BETA Build performance may fluctuate between builds as improvements continue to be made
• Dual GPUs currently do not provide performance improvements

Providing Feedback:
Post your feedback and input on the RED Public BETA Forum: https://support.red.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/360000709953-RED-BETA-REDCINE-X-PRO-v51-Forum ( requires log-in )

E-mail us your user reports, system logs and summary of your experience: redbetasw@red.com
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I know it's a long shot, but I wonder if a beast nVidia card in an eGPU box that both decoded and drove the display could be independent of the OS?

Perhaps even more interesting would be a display/GPU combo that could play back 8K from modest hardware. Modern SSDs from Samsung and others can read at over 500MB/s. TB2/3 and most USB-TypeC protocols can handle that easily. Just thinking out loud. Props to the RedTeam and nVidia for making this happen!

Cheers - #19
 
Lots of people still running High Sierra until Apple gets their poop together... It still supports CUDA.

Also, WTF! Chroma noise reduction and flashing pixel removal? Pre-demosaic?! That sounds just as rad as the GPU demosaic! I hope/presume this is doable even if you don't have an nVidia card? Does does that mean DEB is no longer, or that it cleans it even further (I always wondered why a DEB-like function couldn't be used on all footage/colour channels.). Would *love* to see some comparisons for this (compared to DEB, compared to the current chroma noise slider, etc.)

Is the reason that it's IPP2 only? (I wouldn't go back from IPP2, I'm just curious.)
Is the Chroma noise reduction going to be added to a Mac release beta any time soon?

UPDATE: Balls, 6gb vRAM requirement for GPU decompression? Will that change at all in the future (for lower than 8k resolution footage or lower playback quality like 1/4)?
 
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Mike P. said:
Chroma noise reduction and flashing pixel removal? Pre-demosaic?! That sounds just as rad as the GPU demosaic! I hope/presume this is doable even if you don't have an nVidia card?
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Chroma Noise Reduction is supported in CUDA, OpenCL, and software.

Mike P. said:
Does does that mean DEB is no longer, or that it cleans it even further
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In IPP2 mode, Chroma Noise Reduction replaces DEB. DEB is still available in Legacy mode.

Mike P. said:
Is the Chroma noise reduction going to be added to a Mac release beta any time soon?
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Stay tuned... We aren't yet sure if the next beta will include a MAC version. And if the next beta release does include a MAC version, we aren't sure what features it will contain. But we are targeting a MAC beta release with Chroma Noise Reduction.

Mike P. said:
UPDATE: Balls, 6gb vRAM requirement for GPU decompression? Will that change at all in the future (for lower than 8k resolution footage or lower playback quality like 1/4)?
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Possibly, we have some ideas, but we can't make any promises yet. If we are able to lower the vRAM requirement, it probably won't be a lot lower. A lot of the speed we gained was from pre-allocating the vRAM instead of allocating it as needed. Because we are now pre-allocating, instead of allocating as needed, we need to allocate for worst case decompression scenarios, so most of the time, we end up allocating more memory than we end up using.
 
Thanks for the response Steven!

So I’m hoping that CNR tab is objectively better than DEB across all sensors (particularly [DSMC1] Dragon, since that’s what it was intended for)?

Also, and I’m just crossing fingers and spitballin’ here, what about force linking a lower playback resolution to lower vRam requirement. (e.g. 6gb allows up to 1/1, 4gb only up to 1/2, and 2gb only up to 1/4)? And if possible popping to 1/1 when paused... I’d just love speedier playback, even at the lower resolutions... (no hitching/buffering 6k 5:1 at 1/4 on my MBP would be pretty dope).
 
Thanks for the update Jarred. One thing I noticed is that the gpu option is now grayed out and it doesnt seem to as responsive as the previous version. . I'm sure this is all user error so any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks for always pushing the envelope.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just realized that on this version, the red rocket-x needs to be disabled in order for the gpu's to be used as well as the CNR option is only available if the red rocket-x is disabled much like how D.E.B used to be.
 
Hi RED Team,

thanks from this build, i got realtime Playback of 5k Gemini 4:1 footage in 1/2 even on my older GTX970 and almost realtime on my gtx1050 laptop.
It's awesome but the playback isn't very smooth then. Don't know it's bcause i just have 4gb of vram or because it's the beta. Just want to let you know.
So it renders fast, doesn't drop frames it's just a bit choppy in playback. when i render without gpu it takes longer of course but the playback is smooth.

Keep up the great work, i wil update to a rtx2070 soon and can't wait to have the boost in premiere.

greetings from germany
Marcus
 
Thanks for the hard work guys. There's a few things in there, like the HDR metadata on ProRes that we've been dying for. Great job.
 
The performance is great. I am having one issue however. When enabling both GPU debayer and monitor out via Decklink SDI the image in the UI gets all corrupted. The image on my external SDI monitor is fine. If i disable monitor out then the UI image returns to normal.

This is using Titan RTX

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Raphael_Carpenter said:
Is it supporting Multi GPU configuration?
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The Multi GPU support isn't where we want it, yet. So this beta doesn't officially support Multi GPU configurations.

In a Multi GPU configuration, if you drop a clip into the project pane and up the project's frame rate, it may playback faster. However frames generated on the CUDA cards that aren't directly wired to the monitor may occasionally contain image rendering issues. Fixing those image rendering issues will likely effect Multi GPU performance, so don't expect that this beta's Multi GPU frame rates will be obtainable in future releases.
 
DJ Meyer said:
When enabling both GPU debayer and monitor out via Decklink SDI the image in the UI gets all corrupted. The image on my external SDI monitor is fine. If i disable monitor out then the UI image returns to normal.
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This is a known issue. Anytime the playback is directed to an external monitor, that requires a different pixel format than the REDCINE-X viewer window, the image displayed on the external monitor should be correct, but the image displayed in the REDCINE-X viewer window will probably be bad. This is due to one of the frame rate playback optimizations we added. We are planning to correct it.
 
this is awesome!!! gtx 1080 seems to work better in opencl..... it might be a hair faster in cuda but the footage seemed to playback choppy in cuda for me
 
I can play 8k 24fps footage in real-time with my 4-year-old workstation. It gets pretty closing to maxing out my 1080ti card, but the CPU use is only around 20%! 5k and 6k footage is no sweat at all! Very impressive!
 
Brodie Gwilliam said:
this is awesome!!!
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Thanks!

Brodie Gwilliam said:
gtx 1080 seems to work better in opencl..... it might be a hair faster in cuda but the footage seemed to playback choppy in cuda for me
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The choppiness or stuttering is a known issue. And it appears that it could have multiple causes. We aren't completely sure what is causing it. It would be very helpful if you could get in touch with us via the Feedback channels.

Providing Feedback:
Post your feedback and input on the RED Public BETA Forum: https://support.red.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/360000709953-RED-BETA-REDCINE-X-PRO-v51-Forum ( requires log-in )

E-mail us your user reports, system logs and summary of your experience: redbetasw@red.com
• NOTE: Go to: HELP >> Save Report
• NOTE: Go to: HELP >> Save System Information
 
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