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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Quine & QuineCore @ around the globe

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Multiclips and this logging-UI will eventually migrate from the cloud to QuineIngest and QuineBox IoT.

The goal is to get a unified interface for Production Asset Management wherever you are (online or offline) and whether you go to Premiere, AVID Interplay, Resolve or FCPX or regardless of which platfroms or users you need to share proxies... or processed EXR's with.

Tic Toc Tic Toc. :)

A small tease of the sort of things we can do, once we have the data in a structured database.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5JCub_ewMo&feature=youtu.be

Removing mics and creating clean-plates will be a pretty straightforward thing.
 
This is gonna be fun:

Conformable files over a wireless video-link

Have been working a bit with CVW lately to achieve this for RED. Now developing for ARRI

https://youtu.be/38ikHg-80KQ


Should be shipping anytime...
 
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That in painting looks kind of crazy.
Is that old fashioned rotoscoping or some new machine learning?

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA

it's a mix of machine learning and reconstruction stuff we've been working on for a while...

the idea is to put services like this in the cloud on our PAM as it develops.
 
Working hard to shorten the list of "most wanted" features for QuineBox™IoT, QuineCore and QuineIngest, this has been there from the start.

A Chinese production company that has bought a couple of QuineBoxes for their near-set editing and remote reviewing, was a bit surprised that we actually can not record slow in realtime through SDI. But when we told them that we could try to record the playback of the good-takes and distribute that, they lightened up significantly.

We now have a "TC-run-REC" mode in final testing on ARRI and RED, and as you can see, timecode is intact and identical to the camera-original.

And finally this "most requested" request since we started up is near release:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToluXdksVjI&feature=youtu.be
 
This is probably the highest request from our current users:
Being able to remove the box from the camera for non-VFX productions.

CVW and Quine has collaborated since Cinegears on developing this feature:

Robust filenames and metadata wirelessly over an uncompressed, long-range no-latency video link.

We have showed the RED, here is the ARRI.

Currently this solution is an extension of QuineBox IoT.

Will launch shortly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEklk8jEE4&feature=youtu.be
 
Wireless QuineBox is a total gamechanger.

We will start to sell the wireless units with or without the box sometimes soon.

I think this might shake things up a little bit.
 
Preparing for launch of new products, functions and partnerships every month from now until NAB.

Hopefully we are ready to get the balls rolling early next week.

And there will be some unique and good offers in there for everyone.

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Question is:
Is it room for any innovation/improvement outside Creative Solutions in the realtime video segment based on Amimon chips after Teradek has acquired Amimon?

Or are we going directly to in-camera created streams and IP based solutions?
 
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A bit of fun:

QuineBox™IoT serving on-set editing, on-set dailies, remote dailies and preview on a Martial Arts set in China. 2-camera Alexa mini where 50% of the shots are slomo.

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HUGE PROPS!!!

HUGE PROPS!!!

Since the earliest days of the "Rebellion" I have wondered why there wasn't more development of the kind of solutions Quine is implementing. Perhaps because actually pulling it off is many times harder than thinking it up ;-). IAC, as someone who has wasted way too many hours searching for assets that got "lost" (many of them never actually existed, but that's another thread) I'm pumped to join the Quine party.

I tip my hat to Gunleik and his team for their commitment to designing a system like this for modern workflows. In addition to supporting sophisticated production topologies, I also see this kind of tool as a way to actually simplify operations for a wide range of production scenarios. I urge RED to assign resources to supporting deep integration with the Quine toolset. Having spent the last decade as a RED owner/op I've been constantly amazed at some of the bad assumptions people make about best workflows. Then, being human and all, they blame RED rather than their own ignorance. Set up some templates, have experienced producers monitor set operations (remotely if preferred) and let crews focus on things like focus, framing, lighting, lensing, etc.

Cheers - #19
 
Since the earliest days of the "Rebellion" I have wondered why there wasn't more development of the kind of solutions Quine is implementing. Perhaps because actually pulling it off is many times harder than thinking it up ;-). IAC, as someone who has wasted way too many hours searching for assets that got "lost" (many of them never actually existed, but that's another thread) I'm pumped to join the Quine party.

I tip my hat to Gunleik and his team for their commitment to designing a system like this for modern workflows. In addition to supporting sophisticated production topologies, I also see this kind of tool as a way to actually simplify operations for a wide range of production scenarios. I urge RED to assign resources to supporting deep integration with the Quine toolset. Having spent the last decade as a RED owner/op I've been constantly amazed at some of the bad assumptions people make about best workflows. Then, being human and all, they blame RED rather than their own ignorance. Set up some templates, have experienced producers monitor set operations (remotely if preferred) and let crews focus on things like focus, framing, lighting, lensing, etc.

Cheers - #19


Thanks Blair!

If I knew when I started... I'd probably still have time to post shots here...

It is sort of incredible what it takes to rationally connect things.

This is how Gimball mounting has been... up until now:

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And in operation:

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The reason?

ALL uncompressed wireless video links mess up the essential metadata in some way or another, and "simple" stuff like filenames gets lost or are unreliable.

So I started talking to the manufacturers that have sensible R&D departments and don't only white label (there are not too many to choose from).

First response from all was that "that cannot be done" for very rational reasons.

So I had to take that response back to my team and brainstorm a bit.

And then we came up with a possible solution to the issue.

Then I had to start traveling around the world (literally) and talk more with the main manufacturers (there aren't too many), and the reluctancy to try a "crazy" idea was... high...

But eventually at Cinegear this year, CVW agreed to give our idea a shot.

CVW is possibly the first company to implemented the Amimon products in professional gear and have been collaborating closely with Amimon the last 10 years. As opposed to some other brands, they have a huge R&D department, 4k streaming, are part of a 5G consortium and also have non-Amimon based products for a long time.

After a few months, it was "almost ready", it just... didn't really work.
So I jumped on a plane (again), and we worked until it was done.


From next week, we can offer this:

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An Amimon based uncompressed system with no latency and robust filenames and TC for ARRI and RED.

Essentially replacing the above on-camera rig with this:
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This lets us move the box from the camera (for non VFX-heavy shots) and also simplifies the shipping of files as we can put more powerful network solutions on helping with both local distribution of dailies and files for on/near-set editing, and the cloud integration

But now we have it, and we have a roadmap for future wireless products built by the dominant company in the Asian market. (CVW is not a very well known brand in the west, but they have built a lot of the familiar brands by letting them white label the CVW hardware designs - occasionally changing the "boxes", while operating under their own brand in China and some other Asian markets.)

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Because:
Of course project belongs in QuineCore, but "simple shit", is actually kind of incredibly difficult shit, if you look at our notes and what we have achieved.


then there is all the "political" work, founding our tech through EBU and other standardizing bodies, and the very pleasant work of working closely with the camera-manufacturers and others on "what will come".

We are getting there!
It is a system by now.

And next week I hope to have some good offers to all you red-users

Exciting times.
 
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...I tip my hat to Gunleik and his team for their commitment to designing a system like this for modern workflows...

+1

Thanks for the updates and insights into the ongoing development. The whole project and approach is a good example imo of how to 'just get it done'.
 
Radio-bonanza large scale test-day with the tools developed by CVW and Quine (with coffee).

Multiple (more than 4x) receivers per sender and a tidy Network: Check

Robust metadata wirelessly to QuineBox IoT from ARRI and RED: Check

REC Start/Stop for Arri, RED, Sony and Panasonic: Check

LongRange uncompressed, no-latency connection to monitors and "traditional" recorders like the Pix: Check

Direct CloudSync with metadata and notes: Check

Direct ftp delivery for non-smart devices: Check

Multicam and multiasset structuring of takes: Check

Ingest of non-box based assets: Check

It's growing into a system.

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Finally some product-shots of the final design (even though THAT was done in April)

Startup-bussyness is crazy.

Meeting new clients every day this week and rolling out in the background what we have spent most of the time since July building.

It's insanely cool seeing crazy large productions in our systems...
 
We just kicked off the new year with a bunch of demos for production companies together with http://kryptonfilm.no in Oslo.

Was great fun.

Core is currently spreading a bit controlled into choice users. But handling pretty large productions already.

To kick off the new year, I think the biggest news is that we now have projects to integrate between Core and AVID (with/without Interplay) and Premiere.

The plan is to show these off at NAB, and have them customer-ready later in the summer.

THAT is a significant step forward I have been looking forward to do almost since we started up, and finally getting there isa huge relief.

QI2 (Quine ingest) is also taking shape and has been running as an automized robot serving clients invisibly since October.

Also before NAB this is going to be able to see and touch.

2019 seems to be the year where we close a number of loops, and frankly, that feels extremely good.

So here you go:

QuineBox IoT, QUineCore and QuineIngest working together in a full-scale environment.
realtime editorials and dailies and notes deliver directly to editor (on FTP for now) and to Core for sharing and comparing of notes and media.

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The wireless functionality of CVW senders receivers and QuineBox will probably be expanded to more cameras than ARRI and RED the next few months as well.

Happy new year!
 
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