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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Proxy Module...

H.264 proxy recording is HUGE!

One question though, and just to be clear this isn't a dig I am only wavering between, that's fantastic! and THAT'S FREAKING AMAZING.

When they say that the proxy speaks to the Ipad, iphones, and laptops of the world, are they streaming over a wifi source or are they broadcasting a signal that can link two devices through their wifi signals.

So are we restricted to using that feature of an already cool product, to sets that have wifi internet (Very few)?

Perhaps as all the AT&T iphone users are drooling, the verizon mobile hotspot owners are laughing like maniacs into their droids.
 
Wow how fast is it? can you do a live feed to like say an ipad and use that as frame'ing monitor, when doing a crane move for example? or even better to send the picture to the touchscreen monitor? How long does the wifi send?

I love modular systems!!
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Very cool. This module is going to be killer for direct to web content, direct streaming, applications! $2500? Perfect!

I'm still hoping for ProRes and DNxHD modules!
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Indeed. Although for doing live web streams 1080 is overkill, hopefully a more bandwidth managable module shows up. I would love to use this sort of thing to produce live webcasts.

AStamper said:
H.264 proxy recording is HUGE!

One question though, and just to be clear this isn't a dig I am only wavering between, that's fantastic! and THAT'S FREAKING AMAZING.

When they say that the proxy speaks to the Ipad, iphones, and laptops of the world, are they streaming over a wifi source or are they broadcasting a signal that can link two devices through their wifi signals.

So are we restricted to using that feature of an already cool product, to sets that have wifi internet (Very few)?

Perhaps as all the AT&T iphone users are drooling, the verizon mobile hotspot owners are laughing like maniacs into their droids.
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I would guess to share this with a number of people on set you would want a wireless network. The camera module connects as the source, and then everyone else connects to that network, rather than a bunch of devices connecting directly to the camera module.

Michael Kontaxis said:
Sounds beautiful... I just wish it was cheaper. 2500 dollars is pretty steep for a (future) Scarlet owner.
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I suggest you look into other options for doing the same thing. Then come back and say this is a great deal. Remember, this isn't something you need to own, and it will likely be cheap to rent when needed.
 
I had my first experience with H264 editing and it`s the worst situation I ever encountered - the files not only got to crash Premiere and my system but break Premiere totally until I had to install it twice...so it would be more than nice to have some other format, like Quicktime JPEG or whatever else...but besides this point that module will be of great use!
 
Jim, why H.264 over prores ? Because cross-platform matter ?

RV
 
RivaiC said:
Jim, why H.264 over prores ? Because cross-platform matter ?

RV
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I would gather it's for the streaming purposes; an iPhone or iPad can play H.264 natively over wifi... they can't do prores. This module is more for usability purposes on set than to grab offline dailies (as I gather). Of course one can use it for the latter, but in that scenario something like ProRes would be more desirable. I think we'll hear news of more modules in different codecs coming down the line...
 
Häakon said:
I would gather it's for the streaming purposes; an iPhone or iPad can play H.264 natively over wifi... they can't do prores. This module is more for usability purposes on set than to grab offline dailies (as I gather). Of course one can use it for the latter, but in that scenario something like ProRes would be more desirable. I think we'll hear news of more modules in different codecs coming down the line...
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I see, i'm not sure how this hardware works. But if RED can put in a choice to record either in H.264 or Prores. Then this stuff will be very flexible. Most offline work is done in Prores.

RV
 
RivaiC said:
I see, i'm not sure how this hardware works. But if RED can put in a choice to record either in H.264 or Prores. Then this stuff will be very flexible. Most offline work is done in Prores.

RV
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The other thing to consider are licenses for the codecs... I'm not sure how one goes about implementing either, but there are probably royalties involved.
 
I guess a "proper monitor" with h.264 is self defeating. It is 8-bit why bother. Just get a big screen that doesn't crush or clip, a "good monitor".

And still have a laptop with a RED Rocket and a proper monitor for checking looks at full debayer.

How are the 27" iMac screens with glare?
 
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Awesome news!!!!
 
H.264 is such a great idea. I am a big fan of PIX systems and their whole infrastructure is based on H.264.

It is incredible that the same format Canon ( and others) uses for full quality acquisition in the 5D etc. RED is using for dirty offline dailies and proxy video.

I have read ARRI talking about how RED files where so large in size it was a media management nightmare so they came up with the PRORES 444 for dailies. Who wants to tell ARRI that 1080P PRORES 444 files are actually bigger in file size than RED 4K R3Ds?

And who in the heck needs PRORES 444 for viewing dailies?
 
h264 is exactly what I want here. Small file size and playable on anything.

Albert
 
While I can't wait for the hopefully inevitable ProRes or Avid proxy module, h.264 does make the most sense as a point of departure when you are in the Redcode world.
 
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