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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Proxy Module...

Any of you remember when the first Miranda f900 down-converters cost like 12000?
Nice job!
 
Jim Jannard for President of the world! ;) !!!!



Jannard
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Proxy Module...
RED is increasing the workflow flexibility on Epic and Scarlet with Proxy Modules… the first of which is an H.264 Module.

This module encodes a 1080P stream (high quality scale from full frame) and records to Compact Flash in a rear module. The module also offers secure password protected streaming over dedicated WiFi and ethernet to iPhones, iPads, laptops as well as broadcast to the internet.

This will be beneficial for on set viewing, instant dailies, offline editing, easy file transfer to remote locations, dailies review and collaboration services with such companies as Pix, or live broadcasting for realtime media distribution.

The modules will also support full metadata and XML for editorial.

Availability will be September 2010 and the price will be $2500.

Jim
 
This is insane! I was really hoping this would become true. Once again RED delivers..... :) Love this company!
 
Gosh, an option to have BITC burned in the files would be killer for dailies and client reviews, transcriptions, etc.

This live streaming is so cool. RED is starting to seem Apple-like in the way they are moving so quickly and blowing away anything close to competition.
 
don't plan on focus pulling

don't plan on focus pulling

Sam Taylor said:
Ipad plus module plus remote FF?

Question: Do we know if there would be a delay in such a setup, and would it be enough to affect a focus pulling?
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Normal H.264 would group together a lot of frames for the best compression (one reason it's harder to edit) so I'd think it would have a very significant delay. I would not expect this to be good for focus pulling, unless they are using some less-compressed subset of H.264.

Here's one "low latency" MPEG4 encoder, the best it can do is 0.3 second delay which seems like a long time if you're trying to keep the focus on track.
http://www.fujitsu.com/downloads/COMP/ffna/video/ip-9500_datasheet.pdf
 
This is crazy good news.
I have been dreaming about this for the last 12 months.
Imagine handing out 2-3 I-pads to the customers and the ad agency people on the set. The director can walk around with his pad or i-phone and you wont have to push around the fieldmonitor all the time.

The director has his storyboard right there on the i-pad and the live feed from the Epic right in his hands. Super, super cool.

This is da bomb.

Congrats Jim and team. Keep on rocking. :drool5:
Now kick out the epics before august and we are all set for summertime shootings.

Thanks
Tim
 
h.264? yea, right, April 1st? hahah!

No, but this is great. iPad streaming is a the sweetness. Not sure if I'd want h.264 to edit, but it might work with CUDA acceleration.
 
yep...
this proxy modules will kill dailies creation business etc...but technology is moving and we need to move with it .
The proxies module is a genius idea .

Considering that on set playback and dailies etc...will use this recorded media by the proxie modules :

may i ask what you guys at RED are planning for the RED Rocket™ Future ?
Are you planning a price reduction or an upgrade ?
People is using it mostly to encode for dailies or on set playback...
so maybe knowing that epic will not need the rocket it ,you are planning a price reduction or something new?

thanks
 
I'd say make one that is 200% or ~400% faster and handle multiple streams at once. Then you get the whole CS5 CUDA sweetness but at full debayer and proper 10-bit output.

All wardrobe people, and really all departments will be writing off and buying iPads.
 
Jannard said:
RED is increasing the workflow flexibility on Epic and Scarlet with Proxy Modules… the first of which is an H.264 Module.

This module encodes a 1080P stream (high quality scale from full frame) and records to Compact Flash in a rear module. The module also offers secure password protected streaming over dedicated WiFi and ethernet to iPhones, iPads, laptops as well as broadcast to the internet.

This will be beneficial for on set viewing, instant dailies, offline editing, easy file transfer to remote locations, dailies review and collaboration services with such companies as Pix, or live broadcasting for realtime media distribution.

The modules will also support full metadata and XML for editorial.

Availability will be September 2010 and the price will be $2500.

Jim
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Wireless Streaming... oh my gooooooodness. Huuuuge.
A must have on set and for $2500? I don't if you all realize this eliminates the need to buy a 5,000 dollar wireless transmitter!!!!!!!


Plus H264 proxy module? So awesome Jim and Red Team.
The great thing is that this is in a module form factor..so the module can be replaced when new formats come out. I'm sure prores is on the way.
Makes me wonder if Alexa's prores hardware can even be replaced.
My guess is not as the only thing replaceable i saw on the alexa is the recording module.
 
The possibilities of live web streaming are awesome.
 
If you look at the 720p and 1080p trailers they look decent enough.
I take into consideration the fact that the data rate for the stream has to be manageable.. h264 is ideal I think.

As a steadicam operator, I'm used to the ugly hd-sd downverted streams... now I can fly the epic and have people on set watch it through an ipad....still can't get over it.
 
Yes, I realize that. I guess I kinda liked the idea of 4:2:2 though, but since we are talking RED the data rate will be as high as possible for the receiving devices to handle, as high as possible. So in that case we might be talking some very decent quality, hopefully like the trailers you mention. Might even grade it for ya. ;P

I totally saw this coming, they even said they would. It was too good for them not to do it. They wouldn't have passed this up for anything.
 
Sounds like a little Rocket. Hope, "in the future", i'll be able to choose my own settings and codec.
 
If the 4K realtime limit didn't kill the REDRocket, I'm thinking this module just might. Don't forget, people want to watch dalies after the shoot, not just during. Transcoding might now have to happen to make the file transfers to laptops and mobile devices manageable. H.264 is still a pain in editorial so there is going to be transcoding, just not with the REDRocket.

Seriously interested in hearing about the RED Rocket's future as it was on my purchase list for 2010.
 
Paolo Tinari said:
Sounds like a little Rocket. Hope, "in the future", i'll be able to choose my own settings and codec.
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Perhaps a universal proxies module could become available, or I would guess, each module is specific for a setting to be fast and efficient rather than customizable, you buy/rent different modules for different requirements.
 
Very cool. This module is going to be killer for direct to web content, direct streaming, applications! $2500? Perfect!

I'm still hoping for ProRes and DNxHD modules!
 
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