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Having an idea and being able to realize that idea by understanding light, shadows, color, sound, workflow, and how talent and equipment can help obtain that vision is a professional.

A professional camera is a tool that does not obstruct an original idea. Rather, helps an artist(professional) realize it.
 
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I think "Professional" in terms of cameras or gear meant for a long time that they were versatile so that a professional (trained and experienced Person) could adjust it to all situations. That of course meant that it was often a complicated tool that only professionals knew how to handle. I think the last point has changed somewhat in the last years due to the digital revolution.

Today to me it means: versatile (Consumer Produkts have less options because they wouldnt use everything), sturdy, reliable and up to the EXISTING standard of the Industry.

The problem is that these are all relative terms. For someone shooting mainly weddings it means something else than to Fincher.

Personally I thought the Scarlet would have been professional without HDRx. But it depends on whom RED wants to cater to. Just saying "to professionals" won't be precise enough.
 
Professional Equipment = equipment that is of high quality and paid for to be used on a job
Professional Person = person that is qualified and paid to do a particular job

or something completely different, in the RED context, professional, is something that is great, upgradeable, reliable, easy to learn and use....??? and that is also paid for to be used...
 
An amateur will get one great shot, once in a while, a pro almost always gets a great shot, no matter the circumstances.

An amateur is thinking of his or her personal agenda, a pro is thinking of the production's agenda, and the agenda of their client, distributor or broadcaster.

An amateur sees set time as essentially free of charge. A pro sees set time as very, very expensive.

As go people goes gear.
 
"Only the best is good enough"

and although this is bit rough to my mounth, still have always liked this one:

"Let's leave the production of rotten to dilettantes"
 
being a mere amateur, I sometimes think that professionals I happen to meet are people that get paid for their job, period. I suspect that they sometimes pay far too much attention - if not pride - to the cost level of the gear they use. What I found in Red and in the red one was quite something else : a gear intended to produce the best image quality possible at the service of MY humble, but demanding, purpose...
 
Professional products perform in a predictable manner with consistent results.

A professional product gives the user a lot of control without being overly complicated such that it would become cumbersome. Professional software does not crash frequently and performs tasks in a repeatable, predictable manner. Professional products should not be full of idiosyncrasies and workarounds. Professional products integrate well with established professional methods and workflow, while improving on these methods and workflows.
 
Professional for me means that it is designed for heavy duty use under various extreme conditions. It means that the quality of manufacturing is high enough that the equipment will withstand every day use by different operators. It also is designed to work with industry standard support gear and ideally would not require too many proprietary components. Parts, tech support and accessories should also be readily available to support any professional gear.
 
10 out of 10 Leo. This one can go on the wall.

David



Leo Ticheli said:
I'm a professional.

I've educated myself to a high level of expertise in the artistic, technical, and business aspects of my craft and I continue to do so.

I do really good work, I do it on budget, on time, and without drama. My clients have confidence in me and enjoy a collaborative relationship.

I treat my crew with courtesy and respect, pay them fair compensation, and protect their safety and welfare.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
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Professional vs. consumer. Professional is equipment that does not limit you.
Consumer equipment is built for ease of use. Sometimes the two overlap.
 
In terms of professional, it means that you get paid for your work. There are too many amateurs out there who are better than individual professionals (like independent films that end up better than hollywood films) for professional to mean anything else.

In terms of a professional camera, I expect tools that allow me to do whatever I want as effectively as possible; even if it means the ability to make the shittiest footage ever.
 
Paid vs. Unpaid is a futile example. Here is why?

A professional who undercuts another professional is still getting paid.

So professional also means paying a price in accordance with industry standards.

This is why RED should raise their prices, if someone came along and offered you a Mercedes for 20k you would always have trouble believing it's a Benz or as good as one.

When a DIT wants to work for 200 a day with gear I consider them unprofessional because they themselves have not acknowledged themselves as professionals even if they are capable of aquitting themselves as professionals they have devalued their professional status and worth by pricing themselves as amatures.
 
Hi Jim,

For me,

PROFESSIONAL means:

A) you can achieve better, nicer results. ABOVE ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
B) ...compliant to industry standards (connectors etc...)
C) sturdy equipment
D) capable to adjust (tweak) critical parameters
...more work for the user, not for everyone, but it's the price to pay to achieve any superior results anyway :)
E) Support and commitment (I've been very impressed by both so far :)

Cheers!

Antoine
 
Jannard said:
We profess to make professional cameras. I'd love to hear your take on what exactly professional means to you.

Jim
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Jim, I think you already has given the answer to that question

Jannard said:
My definition of professional is "those that dream higher".

Jim
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A Professional tool is just better for the job than the other tool.
A Professional will just do that little more to finish the job better. He is always busy to do it better than the others.
Professionals alway dream of the perfect tool, but he will also finish the job with the not perfect tool. He knows what he is doing. He can handle it.
 
Professional can make amazing results with unprofessional tools and even under unprofessional conditions. :)
 
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