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Panavision Anamorphics on the 5D2

Tom said:
I still might try to work in one anamorphic shot if I can! Just to say we did it. :)
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Tom,

it's very brave from you and also nice that you are not giving up use of anamorphic on 5D (possible to use Panavision lenses only with EOS mount).

But following the rules of Baraka made by Ron Fricke, a master of time-lapse photography, he decided for his next project Samsara (filming) to
"photograph in 70mm film using both standard frame rates and a motion control time-lapse camera designed
specifically for this project. This camera system will allow him to shift perspectives to reveal extraordinary views of ordinary scenes.
The film elements will be then be scanned to a digital intermediate format. Effects produced in this manner will be stunning without
appearing artificial. Samsara will be the ultimate showpiece for both the HD format and high-resolution digital projection,
as well as standard film projection."

LINK>>>

What does it mean?

So if it would be possible to achieve Baraka like a time-lapse photography with existing DSLR time-lapse quality Ron Fricke would do it for sure...

But it is not possible and Ron Fricke is still shooting on film (70mm/65mm) and possible with the same set of Todd -AO anamorphic lenses that can be rented at Clairmont Camera.

All other anamorphic experiments with 5D and similar DSLRs (GH1, DX3, etc,..) as I said before are going to finish in a field of "advanced video touristic cinematography"...
 
Sanjin, I don't know. It's possible that Fricke is using multiple cameras and then blending between shots in post to produce VFX "moves" or perspective changes. I can't remember what that technique is called (it's fairly new I think), but I saw an amazing sample of it yesterday from some post/VFX guys out of London. Basically you set up a few cameras side by side with overlapping FOV's then "pan" across multiple cameras to produce something that looks like a dolly move. It's really stunning! I know some guys in the Republic of Georgia (they post here too) who have something like 160 Canon 40D cameras that they can line up and sync for bullet-time, but after this thing I viewed yesterday, I am hoping to talk to them about trying to use their gear to shoot something with this new technique! Maybe a TVC or something.

Anyway, in terms of 65mm film vs 5D2, for example, I think Fricke and Mark Magidson are fully aware that "Samsara" will probably be the last major film ever shot on 65mm Todd AO, so they are planning to throw one hell of a final farewell party with "Samsara"!!!!!!
 
Don't confuse Todd-AO 35, which was anamorphic (used on movies like "Logan's Run"), with regular Todd-AO, which was 5-perf 65mm spherical, the same format as Super Panavision. Todd-AO 35 anamorphics, put on a 65mm Todd-AO camera, would be adding a 2X squeeze to a 2.20 : 1 negative, creating a 4.40 : 1 aspect ratio, assuming the lenses even fill the 65mm negative, which I doubt.
 
Sanjin, check out my new signature. :thumbsup:
 
Tom said:
Sanjin, check out my new signature. :thumbsup:
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Good one Tom.

I think Sanjin is a little confused as to the use of this setup...or I am. But as I was lead to believe it was going to be used in a timelapse setup, which is quite different than using the video function on the 5D2.
 
LOL Tom.

I think Canon should brand all of their 5DM2 with that title. It would be nice to see that on the box... Would make me feeling like I'm buying something advanced for all my touring.
 
Tom said:
Sanjin, check out my new signature. :thumbsup:
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Tom,

I back now (afters too much wine), and: wow that's great news... your signature like that you should just leave it for a some-time :rofl:

But anyway back to the Ron Fricke Baraka picture quality that I think no any Hollywood movie before or even after Baraka achieved that

outstanding anamorphic(s) or whatever type of moving image quality anyway...

(that's also would make crazy all those "in line waiting for a job list Hollywood type of shooter(s)" on this or any other similar forum just simply a jealous)...

Or just imagine if every Hollywood feature drama/action/comedy/horror would have this type of Baraka image quality that would be really another or even new

type of moving image art...

but it is still not a reality just because all (decision making) is in a hands of almost always "doomed" and mostly "stupid" producers and their (monopole)

collaborators in a rental and other parts of production in motion picture industry... but sorry that would lead us now to another big topic...

Also it is very-very expensive to make 70mm/65mm feature film production, so many compromises are always involved...
 
Richard Darge said:
Sanjin, you're an alcoholic... :)
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Ha, ha, ha, Richard are you a traffic policeman from CA or what (?)...

BTW, I am drinking a wine all of my life... and it's a part of my lifestyle and philosophy...

Also wine is a drink chosen by the "Gods" even before Biblical time...

Ancient Greece (where wine was a sort of holy drink) is a motherhood of our Western Civilization...

by Bertrand Russell his book: A History of Western Civilization>>>

And now it's all going beyond Westen Civilization that reaches rules of other Global Civilization(s)

and its way of living, feeling, thinking and existing...

I do not discuss any more that so take it or leave it as it is...
 
I love wine. I was raised in wine country Napa Valley. More than enough to go around up there.
 
Richard Darge said:
I love wine. I was raised in wine country Napa Valley. More than enough to go around up there.
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Richard,

you are a lucky guy and now I'm sure you understand me even better...
 
Well, we are back on for one Panavision Anamorphic/5D2 shot monday night.

So, a quick exposure question here. We have a shot exposure picked out for a city skyline night shot. It's ISO 800 f/4 1/8th second on the 5D2 with still lenses. So what T-stop should I set the Panavision Primo to? T4?
 
Tom. It's so amazingingly random that you and I have met or even worked together, but I've been on the same track for about 3 years using anamorphic lenses on still cameras.

Here's an image shot on an old Isco anamorphic that actually covers the full 35mm plane. It's about a 1.5x anamorphic which produces a 2:1 aspect ratio.

PHFX9956.jpg

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And this is actually a 100mm f/2 anamorphic lens that I had Panavision machine together. This sucker is a 2x anamorphic and produces a 3:1 aspect ratio, which is what I was originally after.
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My goals were rather different on this front though because I wanted full coverage on the sensor.

I'm currently trying to build a wide angle anamorphic, something between 25mm and 35mm if possible, but this is just getting silly expensive on my side.

Here's a couple others from the 100mm.

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These were all shot on the 1Ds Mark III. I've done a little testing with the video on the 5D Mark II and the anamorphics, but you will certainly be using higher quality optics for your shoot. Locking focus, as always, is just a "pleasure" with these suckers.

Cheers man, and good luck on the shoot!
 
hollywoodandhighland.jpg


OMG, this shot kicks ass, Phil. I'm going to PM you about something.
 
Nice Tom! I am glad to see you will get at least one anamorphic shot. Hope you have fun and like Drew said, I am very much looking forward to seeing some city stuff from you!

I suppose your dolly and robot head will manage the extra weight without a problem right?
 
Probably could manage it, but the anamorphic shot won't be a dolly move in this case.
 
David Mullen ASC said:
Don't confuse Todd-AO 35, which was anamorphic (used on movies like "Logan's Run"), with regular Todd-AO, which was 5-perf 65mm spherical, the same format as Super Panavision. Todd-AO 35 anamorphics, put on a 65mm Todd-AO camera, would be adding a 2X squeeze to a 2.20 : 1 negative, creating a 4.40 : 1 aspect ratio, assuming the lenses even fill the 65mm negative, which I doubt.
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Wow, how does all this info fit in your head David? :blink: :)
 
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