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Novice "Rods" Questions

I've read mention of "studio 15mm" anyone know what that means? Is that standard 15mm?
 
Thanks Big (and Brook for the answer)

I was looking at the redrock micro ff but is sounds like their 15mm is not the light weight 15mm (which they call standard) and might not work with the red adapter and lenses?

Sorry not to try to turn this into a ff discussion- i'm just still a bit confused.
 
cool- I have the universal and 15mm adapter- I just wasn't sure if the center spacing was the same- Thanks!
 
the pictures look nice- have you used one and can you buy them yet?
 
chuck colburn said:
When using rods to provide support for heavy zooms and hold a big mattebox and three servo motors I would recommend that the rods fit thru both mounting holes.
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The Arri style bridgeplates (ours as well as those from Arriflex) have only front mounting holes and are strong enough to support a 30 lbs zoom, 3 Preston DM-1 motors and a 6x6 studio matte box. The rods can still pass under the RED and extend beyond the rear of the camera but the support is only at the front.

Our lightweight Ultra Rods are available in 15mm as well as 19mm. They come in 6", 8", 12", 18", and 24". All sizes are in stock except the 24" whcih will be available in the next two weeks.
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Hello Stephen, any estimates on when your website will be up with product listing and prices? I'm particularly interested in your Ultra Rods. Would love to know pricing on your EFV bracket as well.
 
I just had a look at the Red Store for the Carbon Fibre rods which I noticed carry the warning: "may explode".

That made me blink twice.
 
So, I'm leaning towards trying to keep everything within the 19mm spec because the Red stuff works with it, I don't need several additional slabs of metal just to attach the camera to my fluid head, the RedRock Mattebox will fit 19mm rods, etc...

The thing everyone says is "15mm is the West coast standard," "You should have a system compatible with rental houses," and so on...

How important is this? I figure I could just get the 15mm bridge plate later on if something requires it, but then all the 19mm accessories I'll have won't fit.

Brain is tired.
 
The 15mm bridge plate [RED's 15mm adapter] is for the 15mm lightweight standard... not the 15mm offset standard that all the rental houses use. You'd need the Element Technica 15mm offset baseplate.

The best thing to do is to think about the kinds of jobs you're going to have and make the choice there. If you're going to be using rental houses and working on professional sets in California, get the 15mm offset base plate and get 15mm offset accessories.

If you're going to be working *only* with your own gear or *only* internationally/on the east coast... go with 19mm. I'd still recommend ET's 19mm base plate over RED's just because it uses the Arri dovetail instead of a new standard... but that's your call.

Here's the way I look at it. Even if you're using your own stuff 90% of the time, that 10% of the time you go to a rental house will still require purchasing the ET 15mm base plate. And in that 10%, if your stuff is all 19mm... you won't be able to use your own gear!

But if you buy everything 15mm from square one, all of your stuff will work with your rig 100% of the time - even when you're renting.
 
Brook Willard said:
The 15mm bridge plate [RED's 15mm adapter] is for the 15mm lightweight standard... not the 15mm offset standard that all the rental houses use. You'd need the Element Technica 15mm offset baseplate.
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I was using the nomenclature put forth by other pros on the board - the Element Technica "baseplates" are "bridges." Right?

Here's the way I look at it. Even if you're using your own stuff 90% of the time, that 10% of the time you go to a rental house will still require purchasing the ET 15mm base plate. And in that 10%, if your stuff is all 19mm... you won't be able to use your own gear!

But if you buy everything 15mm from square one, all of your stuff will work with your rig 100% of the time - even when you're renting.
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The idea of buying $600 chunk of aluminum so I can attach the ET 15mm baseplate to my Miller head makes me want to slit my wrists. It's unfathomable to me that one can't just drill a hole in the ET piece and attach it directly to a normal quick release plate.

It's hard to know what I'll want in a system, and what it'll be used for. I guess since I personally intend to use the camera for the first few months I'll own it doing ENG style work, I'll stick with the minimum configuration and bulk up with the 15mm stuff if a project demands it.
 
Keep in mind though that most every accessory (MB, FF) from Arri or other high-end brands offer adapters for either 15mm or 19mm and in the case of 15mm you can find those adapters in both lightweight (60mm spacing) or studio (100mm spacing).

You're not dead in the water as long as you purchase versatile equipment.
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
Keep in mind though that most every accessory (MB, FF) from Arri or other high-end brands offer adapters for either 15mm or 19mm and in the case of 15mm you can find those adapters in both lightweight (60mm spacing) or studio (100mm spacing).

You're not dead in the water as long as you purchase versatile equipment.
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THIS is a very good point.
 
Cinewalt said:
I was using the nomenclature put forth by other pros on the board - the Element Technica "baseplates" are "bridges." Right?



The idea of buying $600 chunk of aluminum so I can attach the ET 15mm baseplate to my Miller head makes me want to slit my wrists. It's unfathomable to me that one can't just drill a hole in the ET piece and attach it directly to a normal quick release plate.

It's hard to know what I'll want in a system, and what it'll be used for. I guess since I personally intend to use the camera for the first few months I'll own it doing ENG style work, I'll stick with the minimum configuration and bulk up with the 15mm stuff if a project demands it.
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A bridge is a device that mounts on mattebox rods and is usually used to attach to a lens support ring.
 
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