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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Noise update coming soon?

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still waiting for it but I'm sure they will push it out soon...
 
I jut got my dragon and in the same week i had a 6 day booking for it until the DP read about the problems on reduser and cancelled the booking, Thank god i still had my Epic X as they are taking that instead. I won't be sending that in for an upgrade for a while.

Just a heads up guys on what the industry is saying......
 
The short version is that the early Dragon's shipped with an OLPF that could create magenta flaring/haloing when shooting at light sources.

A new OLPF that quelled the magenta flares was offered as a free swap. The new OLPF required new calibration and decoding settings matched to the new physical parameters. Unfortunately, in the quest to hold better chroma in the shadows, the new settings brought up sone red/orange chroma noise that had been hiding in the bottom end. If it hadn't been for the short time frame created by the unexpected OLPF swap, it's likely that Graeme & Co. would have dialed out most of the red/orange noise everyone is talking about prior to public release. FWIW, as long as your scene is well lit and critical portions of the image are not 4 stops or more under key the noise is minimal.

RED now has to balance the understandable impatience of the community for new Dragon FW that keeps the red/orange chroma noise buried, with the desire to avoid another iteration of their system that needs tweaking because it was rushed. So here we find ourselves, waiting for the new FW while the industry takes free shots at RED.

Cheers - #19
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
The short version is that the early Dragon's shipped with an OLPF that could create magenta flaring/haloing when shooting at light sources.

A new OLPF that quelled the magenta flares was offered as a free swap. The new OLPF required new calibration and decoding settings matched to the new physical parameters. Unfortunately, in the quest to hold better chroma in the shadows, the new settings brought up sone red/orange chroma noise that had been hiding in the bottom end. If it hadn't been for the short time frame created by the unexpected OLPF swap, it's likely that Graeme & Co. would have dialed out most of the red/orange noise everyone is talking about prior to public release. FWIW, as long as your scene is well lit and critical portions of the image are not 4 stops or more under key the noise is minimal.

RED now has to balance the understandable impatience of the community for new Dragon FW that keeps the red/orange chroma noise buried, with the desire to avoid another iteration of their system that needs tweaking because it was rushed. So here we find ourselves, waiting for the new FW while the industry takes free shots at RED.

Cheers - #19
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Beautifully put. In a month, I'm hoping this is all old news.

best
 
Phil Holland said:
This honestly isn't stopping anybody from shooting.
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It stopped me actually...I wanted to do a Dragon test but based on the threads here decided I'd rather try to hold off until the new firmware is out...what sense is it to test a camera that will have a completely revamped color science imminently? I figure I'm better off waiting, or locking down, doing a shot on current firmware, and then updating to the future fixed firmware and taking the same shot, under the same lighting conditions in a studio environment...but putting the dragon through its paces now just doesn't make a lot of sense to me when everything is about to be supposedly much better...
 
Brian Merlen said:
It stopped me actually...I wanted to do a Dragon test but based on the threads here decided I'd rather try to hold off until the new firmware is out...what sense is it to test a camera that will have a completely revamped color science imminently? I figure I'm better off waiting, or locking down, doing a shot on current firmware, and then updating to the future fixed firmware and taking the same shot, under the same lighting conditions in a studio environment...but putting the dragon through its paces now just doesn't make a lot of sense to me when everything is about to be supposedly much better...
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If it stopped you from shooting a test, well okay.

What I'm saying is where this lands and how it presents itself is outside of where "anybody" typically works. I see the desire for improvement in the deepest shadows at higher ISO ratings and heck I want it too, but if this is for some reason stopping you from exploiting what Dragon has to offer you're missing the other 99% of what it can currently do.

Perhaps that's my opinion on the matter. Perhaps it's because I'm getting good images out of my camera. Dunno.
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
Including a bunch of new TV pilots - the biggest new series in NY, a $200 million dollar feature, etc. etc.
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hmm maybe i should test it and not be picky lol
 
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