News From RED Day Feb 13

[Michael T O'Connor]

Here's a recap of some of the news I heard during RED Day. I'll be updating this as more comes to me....

• .RM- RED M.D. This is a new metadata format that allows you to set a look in REDCINE-X, and export it. You can then load it into your RED ONE via SD card, and shoot footage with that look viewable in an external monitor (I assume it would also show in the eyepiece, but I can't verify). Very cool.
• REDCine-X is up to Build 13[56] - I can't remember if it was 135 or 136, but they have it up and running. The build they were using had the .rmd feature
• Expect Scarlet to come out towards the end of Summer
• Ordering for Scarlet will start once they're happy with it, and they've started to ramp up production
• They're still working on Monstro, and they've even starting writing things down about their new sensor

Some other important/interesting things we learned:

• Use full debayer
• 4K REALLY does make a difference
• RedColor and RedGamma makes a huge difference for post and DI work
• Boris and Natasha had a 30ms read/reset time when Peter Jackson made Crossing the Line. Read/reset time is now 8.7-8.9 on Mysterium. Mysterium-X has a 5ms read/reset time. Film is 4ms.
• Sony FF35 is about 1.7K. If 1.7K = 1080p, then 3.5K =4K. (1700/1920 = 88.5%, 3500/4096 is 85.5%)
• The ASICs in the new Epics have 29(?) layers. They have twice as many layers as the next most complicated ASICs ever made.
• RED is dedicated to 3D.
• 35mm does NOT abide by Moore's law. RED does.

I'd never seen 4K before, but today definitely made me a believer. They had it projected on a 40' screen using a Sony 4K projector(Jim tipped his hat to them), and I gotta say, it blew me away. The difference between 1080p and 4K is real folks. Once 4K starts hitting theaters, its gonna be awesome!

I was also able to pick up the Scarlet 2/3" Fixed before they started asking people to not touch it, and I've got to say, if that's close to the final weight, expect it to be pretty light. The 8x lens is big though. Much bigger than I expected. They did have several of the RED Mini Primes on display too, as well as the RPPs. They also had a few EPIC bodies around as well, as well as the RED Gunner and the shoulder mount I've seen in quite a few renders.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Thanks for the recap.

The M-X reel projected at 4k on a 70' screen looked fan-tas-tic, oh yea, and it was REDRAY 15mbit!
Cleaner than you would expect, don't care how optimistic you may be.

Also about M.D.: create multiple looks and keep them in the "side-car" .rmd file. It stays with the .r3d's. There is no limit (don't quote me) to what you can throw in there, script supervisor notes, anything we can think of. It seems it will be open for development. Dino mentioned iPad and iPhones over wifi would be great to use with this.

We saw Dino create a look and pop it into a DSMC with a thumbdrive, took about one second on top of the time he put into the look.

Maybe my photos could be moved here so as not to clutter Recon. I talk too much. ; )

 

[Mike Yonts]

You can then load it into your RED ONE via SD card, and shoot footage with that look baked in.

Just to avoid any confusion about the meaning of "baked in," it's still just metadata that you can use, modify or discard.

 

[J Davis]

I was also able to pick up the Scarlet 2/3" Fixed before they started asking people to not touch it, and I've got to say, if that's close to the final weight, expect it to be pretty light.

Holy crap!!

Whats your best guess on weight? Lighter than HVX200? Much lighter?

Maybe if it felt so light it might have been the mockup that Ted showed a few months ago.

The ASICs in the new Epics have 29(?) layers. They have twice as many layers as the next most complicated ASICs ever made.

amazing!

 

[Daniel Valle]

Great news.

Did they say anything extra about the 2/3 fixed or Scarlet S35?

I've been dying for some more news since November 30th.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

It was about 1/3 the weight of an HVX, but it was definitely missing boards. It won't be that light. But that said I'd guess it might end up about 1.5 to 2 pounds lighter than an HVX once it is packed with their alien tech.

Travis was making the touch screen LCDs and face recognition software sound like it was pure insanity. Now I can't wait to see what those will do.

 

[J Davis]

It was about 1/3 the weight of an HVX, but it was definitely missing boards. It won't be that light. But that said I'd guess it might end up about 1.5 to 2 pounds lighter than an HVX once it is packed with their alien tech.

Interesting ... makes me glad I didn't buy a ds20 last week, ds10 might be the way to go.

Travis was making the touch screen LCDs and face recognition software sound like it was pure insanity. Now I can't wait to see what those will do.

You and me both

 

[J Davis]

Expect Scarlet to come out towards Summer

I don't know about anyone else but my interpretation of that is it comes out before summer. Am I getting my hopes up?

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Once you add the batteries a handle and an EVF I'd say it might be about 0.5 to 1 pound lighter. BTW, Travis didn't make it sound like hype either. He looked very genuinely amazed about the touch screens.

A few more pics I snapped hastily. Was too busy checking out the gorgeous M-X footage on two Rocket enabled Cine-X stations, on a Panny 11 and a Panny 12 series plasmas. Un-FREAGGIN' believably clean.

 

[J Davis]

Which way are you leaning Roberto? fixed or interchangeable?

 

[Brook Willard]

Interesting, were the presentations different for different groups? I didn't see Dino or any functioning DSMC prototypes in the "B" group. Sounds cool...!

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Which way are you leaning Roberto? fixed or interchangeable?

Me? I made up my mind as soon as they first posted the specs and prices.

I am buying a fixed, renting Epic S35's, and getting more Red goodness as I can justify it and afford it for my personal kit.

 

[J Davis]

Me? I made up my mind as soon as they first posted the specs and prices.

I am buying a fixed, renting Epic S35's, and getting more Red goodness as I can justify it and afford it for my personal kit.

Same as me, fixed first, s35 goooaaaal!

Sorry I won't ask any more off topic questions. I noticed you added pics to your last post - rockin'
edit: mad jealous u got to go, good for you

 

[Brad Webb]

Red Gunner pics. This thing is awesome. I wish I had a picture of it with the bipod legs on it when it's in "sniper" mode.

 

[Brad Webb]

Red Matte box.

This is 2-3 versions old. It will have rotating filter trays. It mounts right onto the lens with these snazzy interchangeable lens mounts(most impressive). It will also have a swing away rail mount option.

 

[Brad Webb]

Bottom handle for epic/scarlet.

2/3 w/ mini prime and Pro I/O module

2/3, mini primes, Red Volt batteries, BombEVF

 

[J Davis]

great pics brad, keep 'em coming

were any of the touch screens working?

 

[Michael T O'Connor]

I don't know about anyone else but my interpretation of that is it comes out before summer. Am I getting my hopes up?

Sorry J Davis, but I think the way I worded things might have gotten you a bit excited. From what the guy at the booth said, it sounded like it might be nearer to the end of summer...

Just to avoid any confusion about the meaning of "baked in," it's still just metadata that you can use, modify or discard.

Yeah sorry about that. When I said baked in, that was definitely not the best way to put it. What I meant to say is that you'll be able to see that look when ur filming, so you can get an idea of what it's going to look like using the settings you laid down in RedCine-X.

Also a side note for some people(like me):

Redcine-X is pronounced RED- sin (as in the 7 deadly sins ) - E - X

I always assumed it was RED - sine ( as in cosine, tangent, etc) -X

 

[Peter Matthes]

Red Gunner pics. This thing is awesome. I wish I had a picture of it with the bipod legs on it when it's in "sniper" mode.

What is the wheel at the bottom of this picture?

I saw it in one of Roberto's pictures too.

 

[Brad Webb]

What is the wheel at the bottom of this picture?

I saw it in one of Roberto's pictures too.

It's a knob handle thing for the gunner. So instead of having the handles, you have these little rubber knobs to hold onto.

I wish I snapped more photos of all the set ups, but I was to busy ooohing and awwwing.