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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

New RED Viewfinder

Thx for the pics!

I got a better idea of how this thing works now!

Cool so you can go cable or cable-less much like the touch.

Can't wait to take a peek inside!
 
Jarred Land said:
That sounds just like something Element Technica would make ;)
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...very smart mechanical Design of the new Viewfinder, and with the ET Extension looking like a bright future for great fast and flexible Camera Rigging

...and with Jarred's Mention of it supporting next to 1080p also possible native Refresh Rates in another thread its a winner.
 
Jarred Land said:
You can do that... If you look at the pivot point in the middle fo that connector of the EVF, I made that our actual standard lemo connector. So you can take the EVF off the "mount" and put a standard monitor Lemo cable between the two pieces and have it anywhere you want. That little square thing is a 1/4-20 plate that you can put on multiple sides of the EVF to mount to a Noga arm etc.



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Sounds great. Glad you guys have that covered. The smart extension mount also sounds promising. Get that sucker AS FAR forward as physically possible and without a cable. That would be awesome!
 
It needs to have a thicker/stronger rubber bellows that will hold a eyepiece chamie.
 
Brett Reynolds said:
It needs to have a thicker/stronger rubber bellows that will hold a eyepiece chamie.
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+100000 I almost never use a chamie on my bomb EVF because I know it's going to fall off 15 minutes later.
 
Possibly this one has it the feature I think all EVF´s should have. One mouting point and then the possibilty to spin the picture and eye piece 360 degrees. The current vewfinders would have been so much better if the mouting point could be on the upside and right side aswell.
 
Adding a vote for strengthening the rubber bellows - from many years of use, the chamois eye cushions are essential.


Additional "for consideration" request: Might a future accessory include a heater?
 
Brian F Kobylarz said:
Adding a vote for strengthening the rubber bellows - from many years of use, the chamois eye cushions are essential.


Additional "for consideration" request: Might a future accessory include a heater?
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I think you guys are going to be happy... The bellows on the new EVF is swappable without taking along the optics like the bomb evf.
 
There is a really simple and effective way to keep a chamois on there, i'll take a picture next time I get a chance.

Nick
 
Nick Gardner said:
There is a really simple and effective way to keep a chamois on there, i'll take a picture next time I get a chance.

Nick
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Please do Nick. I usually tape or velco it down. I really hope your solution is better!!!!
 
Brett Reynolds said:
It needs to have a thicker/stronger rubber bellows that will hold a eyepiece chamie.
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Agree on the rubber needing to be changed to support a chamois.

Also, never had much love for the Noga Arm for the eyepiece......you never can trust what you're seeing is level, especially while hand held. As soon as you press against the eyepiece everything changes.
 
Brian F Kobylarz said:
Additional "for consideration" request: Might a future accessory include a heater?
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I am still using the original RED PRO EVF (not the Bomb EVF but the 2007) on my Epic. It paired with the excellent Artic Shield-X heat coating:


http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?41156-ARCTIC-X-EVF-Heater-Ships-Next-Week!&p=552804&viewfull=1#post552804


The AxS coating prohibits any polarizing pattern from appearing on the internal lcd. Which otherwise happens once the temperature goes below 18-16 C (64-60 F). Not uncommon for most of the year here in Sweden. But no matter how warm it's outside, like in June to September, when you find yourself filming inside a parking garage or down in the subway, with the original evf you can count on those polarizing patterns. Which makes both composing an image and hitting focus nearly impossible.


The original plus the evf mount from ET makes up for quite a heavy load. Not all of its buttoms are active when mounted on an Epic (even though the firmware of the evf has been upgraded). But its colors are rich and relativley black (not feeling milky). I've never missed nailing focus with it, neither on the R1 nor on the Epic-X.


That being said, I will be upgrading to the new evf. :)
 
Jarek Zabczynski said:
Does this VF exhibit any rainbow effect? I couldn't use the Bomb version cause of that. I know most people don't see that, but I just saw an RGB mess. I guess my eyes have a high refresh rate lol!
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Yeah I'm really curious too...

It's the same for me, and with DLP projectors too...
 
The existing OLED Bomb as well as this upcoming version, also OLED, do not have any sequential color cycling and flashing rainbows. The original RED EVF and subsequent LCD Bomb EVF were also unusable by me due to the rainbows. Same with the ARRI viewfinders [and others on the market] which also share the same sequential color tech. Absolutely dreadfully horrible in every way. They should all be buried and forgotten in an unmarked grave on the dark side of the moon.

The current OLED Bomb doesn't have the rainbow issues, but does have issues of its own. The scaling algorithm used in either the EVF or the camera monitor output causes some very unsightly posterization effects and splotchiness, especially in under-exposed areas. It's quite annoying and often muddies the image enough where it gives us an inaccurate view of what we're shooting. Punching in to 1:1 zoom and that all goes away, so not only does the 1:1 serve as focus check while using the EVF, but also a test to see if the splotchy shadows and other such anomalies are caused by the scaling or something in our environment. I feel the resolution is too low and I look forward to the 1080p updated version, but then again I'm wondering if that's still too little. I'll definitely preview the new EVF with my own eye before buying. I would love a 2160p EVF, yet I think the tech is probably still a few years away from that being viable. For now I intend to keep using my OLED Bomb with the upcoming Weapon and maybe I'll revisit a new EVF in another generation or two. But perhaps this new one will be enough for me to upgrade -- won't know until I look into one.

Hope I'm not coming across as too harsh or critical. The current OLED Bomb is still a nice EVF. I'm just critical of EVF's in general... I don't think anyone has got it right just yet. Los of raves over the Zacuto or others that pop up onto the market. Every time I look into one, I just go "meh..."

The new form factor and mounting of this new RED EVF looks great though.
 
Jarred, how is the field of view on the new 1080p EVF? Or rather, how far away is the image? I really liked the original EVF on the RED ONE. The bomb EVF always felt like the image was far away and made it difficult for me to use. Is the new 1080p the same as the bomb EVF in that department?
 
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