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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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Peter Proniewicz-Brooks said:
As I understand it LYTRO's abilities are sensor related, as it's recording the angle that the lights hitting the sensor, the final resolution is a bit weak (1.2mp) and the added file size is large.
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you're absolutely right... it was a late night stab at trying to solve the riddle..

all i can think of is a new type of hard drive.... or a new type of battery....

something that will change the way EVERYONE shoots videos... not many pieces of equipment can fit that bill.. i can't imagine a soccer mom toting around a lightweight motion control crane/dolly/steadicam vest....
 
I think that after reading the entire thread on Vincent's site it has to be some sort of new stabilizer system. Perhaps a robotic arm, new gyro Steadicam device, something along those lines.

It's the only possible thing that fits all of his clues no?
 
not so much a rumor but a wish. I'd love to see Zeiss release Ultra Primes with interchangeable mounts like the cp.2s
 
Liam Hall said:
My prediction: Lots of bloggers spouting guff. Few product announcements. No game changers. Same as usual...
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The term "game changer" should be abolished with extreme prejudice. It's so overused and I think I start to puke a little in my mouth every time I hear it. If nothing else, I just roll my eyes. 99.9999% of the time, when a product is touted as being a "game changer", it's anything but. In the past 15 years or so, since I've been involved in the production industry, I can count the number of true game changers (in this industry) on one hand. And some of them are obvious technological progressions that we all knew were coming. The top for me, are:

* The CMOS sensor

* The RED One

* Video-capable DSLR cameras

* LED lighting


You know, the products or technological evolutionary steps that actually cause a paradigm shift within an industry. To me, there are still so many obvious products not being made and technology out there that continues to be ignored. At times I'm tempted to pursue some of these things on my own, but the production industry is not my major focus. I have most all my resources dedicated elsewhere...

Les Dittert said:
Sanjin, I know what you are saying, but I somewhat disagree in terms of practicality.

I recently shot a lot of footage in India as a single person 'crew' with the entire camera rig fitting in a backpack.
My backpack weighed less than the weight of the 65mm camera body alone ( at 40lbs... no lens or film mag ) and I am able to equal the quality of that camera when presented on a UHD TV set.
That is REAL 4K .
Yes, the 65mm camera makes even higher quality, but for me targeting 'only' 4K viewing this is just amazing.

Have you ever lifted a roll of 65mm film ? It's one heavy chunk of plastic I'll tell you that!
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One heavy chunk of plastic indeed. If RED comes through and releases that EPIC-645 model announced nearly 4 years ago, 65mm/70mm (even 12~15 perf "IMAX" aspect) will be dead. I will be first in line to buy that camera, I just fear what I'll have to spend on glass... lol.
 
william howell said:
you're absolutely right... it was a late night stab at trying to solve the riddle..

all i can think of is a new type of hard drive.... or a new type of battery....

something that will change the way EVERYONE shoots videos... not many pieces of equipment can fit that bill.. i can't imagine a soccer mom toting around a lightweight motion control crane/dolly/steadicam vest....
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All I can imagine is toting around a lightweight soccer mom!
 
Fish Finder / Push Focus System
We stuck a fish finder on the top of the camera and aimed it where the camera was shooting. We then calibrated the data captured from the fish finder with the picture that the camera captured and fed it to a touchscreen device. When the user pushes on the screen, the device communicates to the motor to focus to that area. How hard the user presses down determines how fast the focus shifts from one point to another. For moving shots, touch on your subject and hold throughout the shot to track and focus will adjust accordingly. Device will also indicate and alert operators when fish are present. Price: $6500 plus the price of a fishing license in whatever jurisdiction you're filming in.
 
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Jeff Kilgroe said:
* The CMOS sensor

* The RED One

* Video-capable DSLR cameras

* LED lighting
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You're a very smart man Jeff. I've always thought that, though these are things that have helped progress the game, they've alleviated some pain, either financial, physical or artistic, but they haven't changed the game. In my twenty-eight years in this business the game has never been about the gear. Gear may give a short term shift in the game, but it won't change it. This game has always been about relationships, underscored by hard work, knowledge, talent and bullshit. Don't forget the bullshit:-)
 
Liam Hall said:
You're a very smart man Jeff. I've always thought that, though these are things that have helped progress the game, they've alleviated some pain, either financial, physical or artistic, but they haven't changed the game. In my twenty-eight years in this business the game has never been about the gear. Gear may give a short term shift in the game but it won't change it. This game has always been about relationships, underscored by hard work, knowledge, talent and bullshit. Don't forget the bullshit:-)
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Of course, but we were talking about products/ gear. As for the bullshit, that's what keeps the film industry afloat! If it weren't for the limitless supply of bullshit and the utter disregard and complete lack of respect for any other industry they may interact with, the film biz wouldn't be what it is today. ;)

So with that in mind, yes, the "game" itself in terms of how the industry is run has not changed in nearly 100 years. At least not since the big studios took over in the '20s. So, on that note, I'm not sure how any one product could change that game. And if the game did change, then what? The film biz as we know it would probably just be lost forever. Perhaps replaced with a model that is more down to earth and rationally conducted... Perhaps not. Some may argue that the real game changer here might be crowdsourcing, Kickstarter and operations like it. It's a huge topic lately, but I don't feel it's a game changer in any way. It actually plays right into the hands of the big studios or those who shovel the shit. It's just a means by which to use Other Peoples Money to fund a new product or money making whatever. And OPM is an age-old institution that predates modern civilization. OPM walks hand in hand with bullshit. Always has, probably always will.... haahaha.
 
Jeff if it's a computer controllable gyro, i.e. robotic automation with programming like a handheld Cineflex gyro then it will be a game changer.

It could be essentially all the benefits of the Steadicam 'flight' without the apparatus as well as accelerometer controlled leveling (admittedly you'd still have to hold it up). Who knows how elaborate it is, but it sounds like it will cost around 10 grand so it could be quite 'game changing' if people don't feel the need to use dolly track or Steadicam anymore and you can have smooth camera moves 'on demand' if you will.

If litepanels are game changing then eschewing the grip truck to a great extent will certainly be a game changer for low budget filmmaking.
 
Peter Proniewicz-Brooks said:
As I understand it LYTRO's abilities are sensor related, as it's recording the angle that the lights hitting the sensor, the final resolution is a bit weak (1.2mp) and the added file size is large.
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This is true. However, the current Lytro camera is only one option in terms of the tradeoff between computer power and angular, spatial and temporal resolution.

Some thoughts:

1. You could do an intelligent deBayer across the lenslets (and different lenslet designs) and gain significant resolution.
Check out http://tgeorgiev.net/

2. Check out dappled encoding (kinda like creating a virtual multi-pinhole camera). EG:
http://web.media.mit.edu/~raskar/Mask/

Heck, what if you put an LCD in front of the sensor and do dappled encoding while changing the LCD at 120fps. Then you're trading off temporal resolution for spatial...

Tons of stuff is possible!

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
This just in from TVLogic:
" TVLogic will debut a new 30" 4K DCI monitor specifically designed for demanding 4096 x 2160 DCI 4K digital cinema monitoring − featuring the widest viewing angle, contrast ratio, and color gamut of any 4K display in its size and class"
 
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