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NAB 2014 rumors and whispers

Nick Morrison said:
Been wondering about the BT Scarlets, too.
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if I was RED I would donate them to film schools in India thus planting the seeds for future Dragon users. Over there they don't bitch about not having the latest tech - they make do with what they have
 
Terry VerHaar said:
Your stuff is simple but solid and insightful, Mikael! Looking forward to what you've got here!! :smiley:
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Thanks Terry. This new one is a tiny bit more sophisticated than foolcat... But hopefully as solid and insightful :-)
 
Zeb B said:
if I was RED I would donate them to film schools in India thus planting the seeds for future Dragon users. Over there they don't bitch about not having the latest tech - they make do with what they have
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How generous of you on REDs behalf. Luckily likely not to happen. RED could service patient customers: A BT Scarlet could make a great cheap back up camera in case you are hit with the not too uncommon failure of your main equipment.
 
Zeb B said:
if I was RED I would donate them to film schools in India thus planting the seeds for future Dragon users. Over there they don't bitch about not having the latest tech - they make do with what they have
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Schools (even in the US) are always underfunded and doing whatever they can to stretch their equipment budgets, since this stuff is so expensive. A few years ago, RED sold the very first batch of BT R1MX's to film schools. They were not free by any means, but sold in nice packages that made it possible for smaller schools like mine to acquire them. It has been a real game-changer for our school and our students, and I would hope that something similar might happen with the BT Scarlets.
 
Matt Ryan said:
Maybe RED will surprise us with a 9k FF sensor with Dragon like specs. I have my fingers crossed but a higher priced epic size 65mm camera would be INCREDIBLE. My guess is the Arri 65mm camera will be fairly large... Imagine a Dragon 65mm sensor capturing up to 100fps at full resolution. That would be exciting.
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If RED can deliver that EPIC-645 camera, which was announced long ago, it would still be ahead of ARRI's new 65mm camera in terms of sensor size. And only 12% smaller than full 15 perf 70mm IMAX. If RED launches that camera and a 4K+ laser projector, I'll have everything I've ever wanted. …for now, anyway. ;)
 
Zeb B said:
Machine out a new scaled up Epic style housing that accepts all current accessories and have adapters for Hasselblad and other medium format lenses. I'm in for the 1st one since I have my Daddy's old Hassy lenses and a set of PhaseOne primes . . . that have Leaf Shutters . . . hmmmm 1/1600sec Leaf Shutters . . . how would that help the dSmc effort?? Keep the 6K resolution but add ISO sensitivity for low noise at high shutter speeds by having bigass photosites. Add to that the variety of medium format Tilt Shift lenses and we're making new age art baby
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:)

How about 6K-7K 4:3 FF for now. :)
With full flash support.
 
For me, I'm happy that RED has been quiet leading into NAB 2014. I would hope that this means they have moved past their initial phase of years past of announcing products early to generate excitement. They don't need that anymore. Instead, holding off to announce until products are within 3 months of announcement date.

If I were working at RED, I'd seriously consider reconfiguring the Meizler module into a new unibody camera, based on Dragon and Meizler.

They will still have their modular option, but for high end filmmakers, something with all the bells and whistles would be stiff competition for ARRI. The WMD is already available for EPIC/Scarlet/Dragon owners, and if they released a separate wireless module for Video/Audio/Timecode/Proxy, that would cover the bases.

Also, I'd like to see them resolve the confusing release of REDRAY / ODEMAX.

Projector? Cool, but not really their wheelhouse - It'd be great to have, but if they inspired/pressured other companies to react to a possible RED projector, then possibly mission accomplished there.

My $.02
 
Since when did this thread become another reduser conspiracy thread about RED's survival? They're doing fine. I'm shooting worldwide on one of my Epic's for a United Airlines commercial right now. Several blockbuster movies both in the cinema and shooting is added to the shooting on RED. Yes, I feel "betrayed" that my 3xx and my 4 other epic's still haven't been upgraded (probably because it's handled through Europe these days and the early adopter model isn't really the queue anymore), but saying they're gonna loose the game is... Never mind... Can we just get back to what's interesting. What is out there of interest to figure out what moves to be taken during 2014?
 
Agreed that there's no need for RED to take the spotlight every NAB. Getting DRAGON out there and entering a phase of consolidation and increasing robustness and ease-of-use is a great focus to have (even if its seemingly boring to the rest of world).
 
Bob Gundu said:
In anycase, there seems to be a lot of chatter of NAB being an exciting one this year with a lot of surprises. Philip Bloom is hinting at saving your money now!
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One can never save enough money. I'm sure Philip has something new to rant and rave about this year, as he always does… Can't say I blame him, I always have a few favorites too.
 
Yeah things are heating up. Remember way back when we were talking about the big boys "waking up", well, it's happening in a very big way, good for us consumers
 
In retrospect, it's kind of crazy how much time the RED One was given to make headway. But yeah, the flood gates are definitely gaping wide open now, hence why I wouldn't be surprised if RED postponed Scarlet-Dragon for half a year, but then offered the upgrade for half-price or something (with the stand-alone price being ~$10k again).

Actually, I heard through the rumour mill - from my most credible sources, mind you -- that Jim Jannard will be at NAB personally handing out bitch slaps to any/everyone who wants one... FREE!
 
Mike P. said:
Actually, I heard through the rumour mill - from my most credible sources, mind you -- that Jim Jannard will be at NAB personally handing out bitch slaps to any/everyone who wants one... FREE!
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Heh. This is one product I wouldn't mind if it got delayed. Like, forever. ;)
 
I think Red will decrease new Dragon prices and justify it by releasing an amazing and somewhat expensive new module.
 
True, but it's apparently already in use as we speak on a couple of films. Obviously won't be the shocking announcement for us, but for the rest of the world...yeah everyone will be talking about it at NAB and on the internets.

Marc Wielage said:
No official announcement on an Arri 6K yet. Give it a week and we'll know for sure.
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