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NAB 2014 rumors and whispers

I am afraid that RED is doomed... :(

I don't understand how RED makes profit with the current business.
 
New 4k Varicam photos:

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I hope RED cleans up the mess that is Dragon and starts shipping the sensor in bigger numbers... otherwise they might indeed be 'doomed'
 
Filip Orlandic said:
I am afraid that RED is doomed... :(

I don't understand how RED makes profit with the current business.
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I never worry about RED being "doomed" as they are owned by a billionaire who appears to have more on his mind than profit.

Dunkan Wolf said:
I hope RED cleans up the mess that is Dragon and starts shipping the sensor in bigger numbers... otherwise they might indeed be 'doomed'
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I highly doubt it. Dragon is a remarkable achievement in a tiny package. As soon as upgrades are done, it will sell itself. There's nothing else like it in it's price point.

Raphael Madeira said:
I kind of get the feeling RED is gonna announce the sale of BT Scarlets, all the Scarlets traded for Epic upgrades gotta go somewhere after all.
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Been wondering about the BT Scarlets, too.
 
Hrvoje Simic said:
Finally someone made it. Hats off to transvideo.
Waited for this 7-8 years.
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Amen.

Why nobody has delivered a small on-board monitor that allows 3D LUT support + wireless CDL control/creation is beyond me. But ... if I had to place a bet who would pull it off I'd say Transvideo.
 
Nick Morrison said:
I never worry about RED being "doomed" as they are owned by a billionaire who appears to have more on his mind than profit.



I highly doubt it. Dragon is a remarkable achievement in a tiny package. As soon as upgrades are done, it will sell itself. There's nothing else like it in it's price point.



Been wondering about the BT Scarlets, too.
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i agree with your profit theory, red isn't in it for profit cuz their business model is nothing like the throw away camera bodies the other companies make. So I am not sure where they are at financially obviously but I have to say if they were in it for the money, they wouldn't bother with half the bs they do. Surely they lose a ton with trade in programs, with free firmware updates, by not repackaging the same sensors in 30 camera models, they act nothing like the competitors when it comes to business models.

I just hope that chinese 6k camera doesn't catch on. Truthfully I just bought an SD only Phantom cuz I am so sick of waiting for Dragon and keeping my Epic in a rental house I just wanted ANYTHING to play with... I hope Dragon does well, and I don't mind milking MX either
 
I will say that KineRAW is doing quite a lot right in theory... Things like dual SSD slots for redundant or extended recording, being able to choose Cineform RAW or uncompressed, sensor crop and binning downscale modes (the 3k binning mode adding two more stops of DR), size and price, mounts, battery life being 3-3.5 hours on a 130wh battery!!!... All of that stuff is amazing (on paper).

...Of course, like any new camera, it's going to take a few brave souls to find out if it's anywhere close to being production ready... And lost-in-translation typos on their website do *not* breed confidence...

And I'm still hopeful to see an affordable ($5k-$10k) FF35/65mm raw option at NAB... whether it's Blackmagic or Sony or someone else. Likely "only" 4k, but really big pixels that are excellent in low-light would more than make up for the "lack" of resolution. I also would still love to see an Alexa4k, and not just a 6k-65mm from Arri (since that's going to be prohibitively expensive to own/operate)... I get the feeling Arri's claim is going to be a very conservative 18stops DR (measured 20+ stops) or something crazy.

I would love for RED to drop the price of the Scarlet-Dragon upgrade. They haven't really taken money for it yet, and $5k is a much easier pill to swallow, especially if the upgrades won't commence until AFTER summer2014 (which is where it seems to be heading). At this point, the only way I'd buy a BT Scarlet is if it was $3k AND still upgradable. Actually, I'd love the prices of REDmags to drop off a little too... Has RED stopped making regular mags?

Am I being overly optimistic? To be fair, it is a buyers market (has been for a couple of years now).
 
What's RED got under its sleeves for us this NAB2014? New camera that's reasonably priced, or just a boring ole firmware update. Oh man after Canon losing a lot of its customers for overpricing 1DC and C300,C500(compared to RED), I'm super excited to see the new EOS Cinema line camera that rumors are going around about.
 
I'm curious most about the Panasonic s35 4k camera. 120fps, 14+ stops dynamic range, record dual formats like the f55, 120 minute record time at 24fps to p2 cards. If it's priced right it could take a huge share of the market.

Arris 65mm would be huge considering RED had been leading the larger format arena. This leaps Dragon big time sensor size wise. And let's be real, it's Arri so it will be widely used and loved.

Maybe RED will surprise us with a 9k FF sensor with Dragon like specs. I have my fingers crossed but a higher priced epic size 65mm camera would be INCREDIBLE. My guess is the Arri 65mm camera will be fairly large... Imagine a Dragon 65mm sensor capturing up to 100fps at full resolution. That would be exciting.
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
Amen.

Why nobody has delivered a small on-board monitor that allows 3D LUT support + wireless CDL control/creation is beyond me. But ... if I had to place a bet who would pull it off I'd say Transvideo.
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Whoa...
 
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