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My Diary For A EPIC X Stage 4 Delivery

After huge deliberation I have decided to wait on my order for an Epic. Had some incredible help and advice on this forum from clearly some very expert Red users. I have also felt at times troubled by some posters of just blind focused opinion that Red is greater than every other camera out there which as the majority of us know is just not true. I was particularly upset by the whole Phillip Bloom affair. I was on that thread on the night he was banned and it was not pretty. Maybe moderators need to step in far quicker. Anyhow I believe you pick the right camera package for the job you are shooting. It might well be Red but equally as in my case at the moment it could be a 5D. I am shooting in Cape Town in January and have had some great response and feedback from Red users and will be renting an Epic kit with an experienced user to really help me grasp both the camera and the post work flow. I hope in February to post some footage/stills here for some constructive critic.

Any tips on gaining the most from my shoot would be gratefully received. I'm shooting motion but equally the stills from motion are just as important. Everything I've read on here suggests I shoot 96fps, 5K at the best compression code (what would you recommend?). Does anyone have any other tips?

I know for what I want a camera to do Red Epic is my number one (and only-Scarlet can't do it, RedOne nearly can) option. Based on my real world experience in January I will either place an order .............or wait for Dragon's rumoured low light capability. Or do I wait for Epic 645?!!!!!!!!! With Leica S2 glass - now that for me as a stills guy, Epic 645 is really exciting. I'd place an order right now!
 
At the bottom of the email screenshot Iain posted...

This e-mail is the property of RED Digital Cinema Camera Company. It is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. Distribution or copying of this e-mail, or the information contained herein, to anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited.
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I'm just saying... ;)
 
Iain Philpott said:
Sorry you have just lost me! Please explain?
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In your first post in this thread, you posted a screenshot from an email you received from a Bomb Squad rep at RED. At the bottom of the email, there's a confidentiality disclosure (as there is with any email sent from RED). It states:

This e-mail is the property of RED Digital Cinema Camera Company. It is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. Distribution or copying of this e-mail, or the information contained herein, to anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited.
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I was just pointing out that taking a screenshot of the email and uploading it publicly to the REDuser forum goes against the confidentially disclosure... However, I tried saying it in an amusing way as I didn't wan't people to think I'm trying to cause a problem here. Because I'm not.. I was just pointing out that little disclosure.

But, never mind that... Great thread. :)
 
Brian Iannone said:
In your first post in this thread, you posted a screenshot from an email you received from a Bomb Squad rep at RED. At the bottom of the email, there's a confidentiality disclosure (as there is with any email sent from RED). It states:



I was just pointing out that taking a screenshot of the email and uploading it publicly to the REDuser forum goes against the confidentially disclosure... However, I tried saying it in an amusing way as I didn't wan't people to think I'm trying to cause a problem here. Because I'm not.. I was just pointing out that little disclosure.

But, never mind that... Great thread. :)
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OMG! Now I get where you are coming from. Are you actually being serious here? IF there was something even vaguely controversial about that screenshot I would not have posted it. It is people like you who when there is nothing there fan the flames that create the very situation that got Philip Bloom banned and he gave back his camera. You find it now appropriate to post those comments some three months after the start of the thread? After neither anyone else or more importantly a moderator told me I was wrong to post it.

I am seriously shocked. You need to take some time and reconsider what you wrote?
 
Iain Philpott said:
OMG! Now I get where you are coming from. Are you actually being serious here? IF there was something even vaguely controversial about that screenshot I would not have posted it. It is people like you who when there is nothing there fan the flames that create the very situation that got Philip Bloom banned and he gave back his camera. You find it now appropriate to post those comments some three months after the start of the thread? After neither anyone else or more importantly a moderator told me I was wrong to post it.

I am seriously shocked. You need to take some time and reconsider what you wrote?
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I'm not saying that there was anything controversial about the screenshot. And as I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to cause a problem here... I posted what I did because I just saw this thread. You ask me if I find it appropriate to post my comments three months after the start of the thread, yet you were the one who brought this thread back up with your post at 6:20 PM.

All I'm saying is that even though an email may not contain any controversial information, if there's a confidentiality disclosure at the bottom, I think that it should be respected. You may be shocked by hearing that, but I do not regret and/or need to reconsider what I wrote.

Philip Bloom's situation has absolutely nothing to do with this. His issues are in a completely different category. Please do not speak as though you understand what happened, and more importantly, do not place me in the same category as the people who flamed-up the Bloom-related threads.

Just to rewrap: I was simply pointing out a confidentiality disclosure at the bottom of the email screenshot you uploaded. You take it any way you want to. I wrote my post respectfully and my intention was not to cause any issues. It was an informational comment, and that's all.
 
Brian Iannone said:
I'm not saying that there was anything controversial about the screenshot. And as I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to cause a problem here... I posted what I did because I just saw this thread. You ask me if I find it appropriate to post my comments three months after the start of the thread, yet you were the one who brought this thread back up with your post at 6:20 PM.

All I'm saying is that even though an email may not contain any controversial information, if there's a confidentiality disclosure at the bottom, I think that it should be respected. You may be shocked by hearing that, but I do not regret and/or need to reconsider what I wrote.

Philip Bloom's situation has absolutely nothing to do with this. His issues are in a completely different category. Please do not speak as though you understand what happened, and more importantly, do not place me in the same category as the people who flamed-up the Bloom-related threads.

Just to rewrap: I was simply pointing out a confidentiality disclosure at the bottom of the email screenshot you uploaded. You take it any way you want to. I wrote my post respectfully and my intention was not to cause any issues. It was an informational comment, and that's all.
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If your intention was not to cause any issues you could have sent me a PM? Enough - subject closed.
 
Iain Philpott said:
If your intention was not to cause any issues you could have sent me a PM? Enough - subject closed.
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No, I couldn't. The point of a forum is to publicly inform people of information and participate in discussions. Because I posted in this thread informing you of the confidentially disclosure at the bottom of the email, other people may now notice that and realize that their conversations with RED and other companies should remain private. Not only do you now know, but others do also. That's what's great about forums. It's the public sharing of information that makes the system work.

By the way, here's a previous post by one of the moderators. Notice the "Don't publish private e-mails" part. So next time, don't assume that others are trying to cause problems when they're simply making informational statements.

Martin Weiss said:
Don't
  • Publish private e-mails
  • Quote long posts in full length
  • Attack other users or get otherwise personal. Don't say things you wouldn't say to someone face-to-face
  • Make fun of grammar or spelling mistakes. Not everyone on this forum is a native English speaker
  • Reply to spam messages that make it through the system once in a while — simply use the little
    report.gif
    button to alert a moderator
  • Resort to questioning the professionalism of a poster just because you disagree or s/he had trouble with a camera
  • Send html attachments - this will get you automatically banned (I learned this the hard way)
  • Hide behind anonymity. Let us know your real name, where you live and maybe your RED number, too.
  • Question RED's loyalty to its customers
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I always thought this thread would become a great point of reference for stills guys shooting motion in the same transition as me of looking at what tech was out there to move them on in servicing their clients. Worked really well until the thread was hijacked by a comment and screenshot observation of the very first post three months ago. Your comments make not one jot of difference to it so far as no moderator or employee of RED has had any issue with what was posted. If you are taking on the role of Moderator please will you apply to RED for that position and may RED direct everyone of that appointment. But like other threads that have been attacked this one is now dead. No one will go past the 'handbags at dawn' comments so I will not waste any more time posting here. You could have taken a better approach.
 
Ian, Brian:

Please let's get back to the thread's original objective; such a waste of energy what both are doing.

Ian- I'm a still pro that is making the jump to Scarlet-X from a Nikon world and chose a set of Zeiss ZF.2 glass with an Optitek Nikon mount for my Scarlet-X. I can't wait! Please let me know about your SA trip with your rented Epic.

Brian- My brand new PC that I ordered from CyberPower came broken; my liquid cooling GTX590 was dislodged from the ASUS motherboard and IT WAS SUCH A BUMMER! I returned it.

Marcos
 
Marcos Montenegro said:
Please let's get back to the thread's original objective; such a waste of energy what both are doing.
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When you're my age, you don't need to worry about losing energy while making your point. =D

But anyway, I agree with you in that I believe, at this point, it's in everyone's best interest to return to the thread's original objective. As much as I would like to post another comment to Iain's most recent post, I will refrain from doing so.


Marcos Montenegro said:
Brian- My brand new PC that I ordered from CyberPower came broken; my liquid cooling GTX590 was dislodged from the ASUS motherboard and IT WAS SUCH A BUMMER! I returned it.
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That is indeed a huge bummer! The issue with buying prebuilt systems is that if something goes wrong, you need to send back the entire unit. When you build one yourself, you're able to troubleshoot the individual components that are malfunctioning and replace those, which is why I prefer doing that. If you ever decide to build your own PC, feel free to contact me with questions. I'd be happy to assist! :)
 
Hi Marcos,

Could not agree with you more. This I felt was a great thread for transitional still guy's which was always my intention. But said gentlemen has posted on another thread tonight that REDONE is obsolete. As a side reference to all of this I'm struggling on that one because it shoots pics at a higher rate than Scarlet? I object to the way in which this thread has been hijacked over something as silly as a screenshot that no moderator or employee from RED has raised.

Back to your post.... Just before you envelope the CP2's, Jannard posted a fantastic thread yesterday on lens testing. I was all set on the Zeiss CP's, now, for less money (OK they are heavier) the RED primes are ticking boxes for me. Take a look. As far as I'm aware they did not check any Nikon glass. At the moment on my 5D I'm using nothing but Nikon glass. Can't comment on your computer issues as I am completely Mac!
 
No I'm not kidding. If that is not what you said then I apologise. I am a really nice guy and I'm sure you are too. We should move this to a PM. Going to bed now but really happy to have a telephone conversation with you. It's ridiculous. We clearly have to agree to differ. PM me with your email or phone number?

Warmest regards

Iain
 
Calm down boys...

Jim
 
Jannard said:
Calm down boys...

Jim
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My deepest apologies Mr. Jannard. I'm being completely serious now. I am honestly very sorry that I caused you to have to post here. I have the utmost respect for you, your company and this website. I truly apologize for writing what I did. Please believe me when I say that I had absolutely no intention of creating a disturbance in this forum.

Best regards,
Brian Iannone
 
Jannard said:
Calm down boys...

Jim
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I've just been cleaning my teeth in the bathroom and an alert comes in from Jim. God darn it I have sparked up the computer (it's 4.53am here!) and ........well you have to when Jim gets on the line!

Apologies to Brian. Just..........just just! We clearly are as bloody minded as each other which in my my book is strangely warming. I actually think we would probably get on famously, despite his 18 years, and my 47 as two belligerent old gits (as they say here in Blighty) who would argue to the cows come home.

Brian at some point I'm sure we will meet up and I will buy you a drink. Both you and Jim have a fantastic Christmas and an extremely prosperous New Year with health and happiness.

Brian you hit the nail on the head, with toothpaste still in my mouth 'Forums can be so amusing at times'! God bless, Iainx
 
Iain Philpott said:
I've just been cleaning my teeth in the bathroom and an alert comes in from Jim. God darn it I have sparked up the computer (it's 4.53am here!) and ........well you have to when Jim gets on the line!

Apologies to Brian. Just..........just just! We clearly are as bloody minded as each other which in my my book is strangely warming. I actually think we would probably get on famously, despite his 18 years, and my 47 as two belligerent old gits (as they say here in Blighty) who would argue to the cows come home.

Brian at some point I'm sure we will meet up and I will buy you a drink. Both you and Jim have a fantastic Christmas and an extremely prosperous New Year with health and happiness.

Brian you hit the nail on the head, with toothpaste still in my mouth 'Forums can be so amusing at times'! God bless, Iainx
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I must admit, I had a good laugh after reading your post! =D The first two sentences and the last two are the best.

If I'm ever in London, I'll be sure to come by and meet you. I think we'd actually get along pretty well. :)
 
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