KOMODO....

[Jarred Land]

Wait a minute... how?

He directly recorded the 4k 12g stream.

It was the first test of our first ever implementation of 4k 12g SDI. And In true Soderbergh fashion, we only got it working the day of... what he needed for it to work didn't work when I boarded the plane and literally on my flight over from LA to NY to hand off the cameras the engineers threw down some serious magic.

I spent an hour on that flight coming up with a " sorry it didn't work out " speech to tell Soderbergh.. luckily I didn't need to use it.

Our engineers are such rockstars.

 

[Joachim Hoge]

Amazing story Jarred. Thanks for sharing, and hats off to the team behind you. Looking forward to drag (no wait, it’s so small it won’t be a drag) that little dragon up some nice mountains

 

[Tim Daust]

He directly recorded the 4k 12g stream.

It was the first test of our first ever implementation of 4k 12g SDI. And In true Soderbergh fashion, we only got it working the day of... what he needed for it to work didn't work when I boarded the plane and literally on my flight over from LA to NY to hand off the cameras the engineers threw down some serious magic.

I spent an hour on that flight coming up with a " sorry it didn't work out " speech to tell Soderbergh.. luckily I didn't need to use it.

Our engineers are such rockstars.

yeah that story made me smile... you are all rockstars

 

[James Sielaff]

That’s pretty wild.

 

[Phil Holland]

And In true Soderbergh fashion, we only got it working the day of... what he needed for it to work didn't work when I boarded the plane and literally on my flight over from LA to NY to hand off the cameras the engineers threw down some serious magic.

Heh. "On the fly". Literally.

 

[Gregory Karydis]

...I am putting prototype Komodo in their hands for them to try and break...

Exactly, you said so from the beginning!

...I spent an hour on that flight coming up with a " sorry it didn't work out " speech to tell Soderbergh.. luckily I didn't need to use it.

Our engineers are such rockstars.

And it's exciting that we get to learn a bit of the back-story!!!

Would be interesting to have someone documenting all of "the making of a great little beast of a camera", to share after it's all done.
Obviously with redactions wherever necessary, but it could be a great suspense thriller!

Hats off to you and the amazing RED Engineering Team and the kickass Manufacturing Team that are all bringing us one step closer to the release of the baby Dragon!

 

[Christophe Deshoux]

Thank you Jarred for your answers.
Indeed, if these are productions in progress, we can understand that they are not yet shown and this is perhaps not what the interested parties expect before making their choice on the future.

It would be more efficient if Red made available raw images from the camera, rather than shots from various productions.
The ideal would be to provide 3 examples: a sequence in low and high light, another with more or less violent movement (for the global shutter…).
It would be great.

 

[Adam Reed]

Some folks on this thread are starting to remind me of “if you give a mouse a cookie.”
To me it seems like we are getting some unique and valuable insight into a truly different product that is solving real problems and yet for some, nothing seems to satisfy. Some people on here keep demanding more and more as if it was their right. How about “Thanks Jarred for involving the community” instead of “I need three different stills and footage from these studio projects right now for this project that isn’t even complete.”

I am not against asking for info, but how many companies do any of this? Usually it’s an impersonal press release and that’s it. This is part of what makes Red cool..the community feel. It’s not just the tech, it’s the culture. Let’s not ruin it by getting too entitled.

Can’t wait for the Komodo to go with my freshly finished sensor upgrade arriving back to me tomorrow!

Gonna be a good year for Red.

 

[Alex Stolpakov]

He directly recorded the 4k 12g stream.
Our engineers are such rockstars.

That's really unexpected. It's very, very interesting. If camera can put out 4k 12g, can it write internally other codec like ProRes 444 ?

 

[Jiri Vrozina]

Some folks on this thread are starting to remind me of “if you give a mouse a cookie.”
To me it seems like we are getting some unique and valuable insight into a truly different product that is solving real problems and yet for some, nothing seems to satisfy. Some people on here keep demanding more and more as if it was their right. How about “Thanks Jarred for involving the community” instead of “I need three different stills and footage from these studio projects right now for this project that isn’t even complete.”

I am not against asking for info, but how many companies do any of this? Usually it’s an impersonal press release and that’s it. This is part of what makes Red cool..the community feel. It’s not just the tech, it’s the culture. Let’s not ruin it by getting too entitled.

Can’t wait for the Komodo to go with my freshly finished sensor upgrade arriving back to me tomorrow!

Gonna be a good year for Red.

Nobdy is demanding anything. They were valid questions. Only Morons buy stuff without testing it or without viewing anything. Questions were polite and logical. Answers were polite and logical. That is what makes this group so special.

 

[Darius Lyles]

Will Komodo have any flavor of Prores?

 

[Andy Roberts]

Nobdy is demanding anything. They were valid questions. Only Morons buy stuff without testing it or without viewing anything.

I think the point is, this camera is not for sale yet, and Red isn't asking anyone to buy it on trust without seeing images. Its is SUPER CLEAR that *IF* the Fire Chief felt comfortable AT THIS POINT to share footage or stills shot in a testing scenario (like "Leo" the lion, or "Leo"-nardo with a cigar... some guys remember those test shots), then he would. But he doesn't obviously. He has said that the color science is still being nailed down. My guess is that the first samples you'll see is when Komodo becomes available to buy. Asking vs asking with an overtone of entitlement is something that is easy to spot on these boards. And entitlement just wrecks the mood for everyone, especially the creator.

 

[Luke Marcus Rosen]

And In true Soderbergh fashion, we only got it working the day of... what he needed for it to work didn't work when I boarded the plane and literally on my flight over from LA to NY to hand off the cameras the engineers threw down some serious magic.

I spent an hour on that flight coming up with a " sorry it didn't work out " speech to tell Soderbergh.. luckily I didn't need to use it.

Side note, sorry to derail. But Jarred what do you do to manage stress ? Your position of always being in constant hell or high water, I imagine it is a lot of adrenaline and a lot of blood pumping through. More so than others.

 

[Adam Reed]

I think the point is, this camera is not for sale yet, and Red isn't asking anyone to buy it on trust without seeing images. Its is SUPER CLEAR that *IF* the Fire Chief felt comfortable AT THIS POINT to share footage or stills shot in a testing scenario (like "Leo" the lion, or "Leo"-nardo with a cigar... some guys remember those test shots), then he would. But he doesn't obviously. He has said that the color science is still being nailed down. My guess is that the first samples you'll see is when Komodo becomes available to buy. Asking vs asking with an overtone of entitlement is something that is easy to spot on these boards. And entitlement just wrecks the mood for everyone, especially the creator.

Thanks Andy! I wish I could have said it this well the first time! Thanks for the eloquence and the support! And yes, easy to spot.

 

[Jarred Land]

I think the point is, this camera is not for sale yet, and Red isn't asking anyone to buy it on trust without seeing images. Its is SUPER CLEAR that *IF* the Fire Chief felt comfortable AT THIS POINT to share footage or stills shot in a testing scenario (like "Leo" the lion, or "Leo"-nardo with a cigar... some guys remember those test shots), then he would. But he doesn't obviously. He has said that the color science is still being nailed down. My guess is that the first samples you'll see is when Komodo becomes available to buy. Asking vs asking with an overtone of entitlement is something that is easy to spot on these boards. And entitlement just wrecks the mood for everyone, especially the creator.

Well said. And to be fair I understand the request... I'm giving everyone a peek behind the curtain and its human nature to want the curtain to open wider.

Nobody is demanding anything. They were valid questions. Only Morons buy stuff without testing it or without viewing anything.

I'd say the way some requests that have been presented have been borderline demanding... but to your own point nobody nobody is asking anyone to buy anything. You can follow along with the development if you want to... your choice.

There are no pre-orders, no deposits and to be very clear, The only thing I promise you is that there are no promises. The world is a bit of a shit show right now... Let us all make the best of it and try and stay positive.

 

[Alain M]

Well said. And to be fair I understand the request... I'm giving everyone a peek behind the curtain and its human nature to want the curtain to open wider.



I'd say the way some requests that have been presented have been borderline demanding... but to your own point nobody nobody is asking anyone to buy anything. You can follow along with the development if you want to... your choice.

There are no pre-orders, no deposits and to be very clear, The only thing I promise you is that there are no promises. The world is a bit of a shit show right now... Let us all make the best of it and try and stay positive.

Take your time Jarred, we are only happy to own a Komodo whenever the times is right for you to release!!! Thanks for keeping us updated and Stay safe out there. Like you said, "Tthe World is a bit of a shit show right now"

Cheers!

 

[James Winegar]

Jarred you are amazing to respond to us and share what you have. So thank you. We are preparing for the potential for things around the world and specifically in the US to change. Let’s hope warmer weather will slow the spread. Regardless if you have not been affected you will be. All work for me has been canceled or postponed. We are all excited about Komodo, but unfortunately we want it ASAP. For now I am taking a step back and focusing on other more important or I should say pressing things. Jarred I just hope when it is ready we will be able to get our hands on the new camera with as little delay as possible. If it takes more time we won’t be mad, or at least I won’t be. Bigger things to deal with right now. Jarred thank you for the peak behind the curtain. Excited to see more as things develop!

 

[Darius Lyles]

Time to start moving money to my RED account so I can be ready for the snow dragon

 

[Zack CC]

He directly recorded the 4k 12g stream.

It was the first test of our first ever implementation of 4k 12g SDI. And In true Soderbergh fashion, we only got it working the day of... what he needed for it to work didn't work when I boarded the plane and literally on my flight over from LA to NY to hand off the cameras the engineers threw down some serious magic.

I spent an hour on that flight coming up with a " sorry it didn't work out " speech to tell Soderbergh.. luckily I didn't need to use it.

Our engineers are such rockstars.

Awesome. That's some real trust and competency right there. When I think about that workflow, I realize how spoiled I am by how I can interact with R3D. Provides an incredible safety net for those of us who are less, uh... practiced. Not that an SDI stream isn't data rich, but still.

Excited to see the results!

 

[Mendes Nabil]

and if you look at the footage between the prototypes in Jan vs the ones now the IQ difference is night and day.
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He directly recorded the 4k 12g stream.

Great! I really feel like, way more than a "Baby DSMC2", Komodo is a "Pre DSMC3" camera, can't wait to see what you've done with the IQ (color science / dynamic range / highly rolloff ..)

Does shooting the 4k 12g stream directly have an advantage over R3D?