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KOMODO....

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Awesome !

CES must be overwhelming...

Block Utility Camera …

"Block 1". BUC

AND multiple cameras - excellent.

THANKS SO MUCH ! @PH. (coffee break update )
 
I think one thing you really can expect from me is doing fun stuff with that RF mount.

In conjunction with RF lenses? I thought the AF will need at least a couple of firmware upgrades to get to the point we want to have it...
As for me, at least at the beginning until AF works properly I'll use my Zeiss Otus EF mount lenses with the V-ND filter...
 
I want to trade my hydrogen toward other gear. Will I still be able to get the Komodo discount even if I do not have it anymore? I was one of the preorders.
 
Carlos_Crespo said:
I think one thing you really can expect from me is doing fun stuff with that RF mount.

In conjunction with RF lenses? I thought the AF will need at least a couple of firmware upgrades to get to the point we want to have it...
As for me, at least at the beginning until AF works properly I'll use my Zeiss Otus EF mount lenses with the V-ND filter...
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I have a lot, and I mean a lot of lenses. And weird ones at that. So yes to native RF glass, but there's also a landscape to adapt so many other lenses to this camera rather painlessly like your Otus primes and behind the lens ND of "many forms" is possible in that case.

Actually for PL users this is going to be an interesting use case for POV cams and all that with all the known and unknown ND options.
 
Edited because I can't read.

Lensrentals' review of the Pocket Cinema 4K says you cannot shoot *uncompressed* raw on CFast and will need an external harddrive for that. However, that's a cuckoo bananas 400MB/s data rate (and almost 1GB/s on the Pocket 6K!!) that Redcode doesn't reach even at 8K. BRaw's 3:1 drops to rational levels probably more in the ballpark of what we're talking about for Komodo. However, there are still anecdotal reports out there of dropped frame issues even at compressed rates. Hopefully that's a camera-side issue and not indicative of CFast's throughput.

At least Blackmagic offers some compression schemes. If you've bought a Sigma fp, good luck to you I guess. Cards are SD UHS-II and data rates are in the 300's unless you just don't shoot raw.

Since HDMI isn't robust enough for Komodo, I'm going to guess we won't be plugging in USB 3 harddrives LOL
 
Phil Holland said:
I have a lot, and I mean a lot of lenses. And weird ones at that. So yes to native RF glass, but there's also a landscape to adapt so many other lenses to this camera rather painlessly like your Otus primes and behind the lens ND of "many forms" is possible in that case.

Actually for PL users this is going to be an interesting use case for POV cams and all that with all the known and unknown ND options.
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Nice and ^^^ This is gonna be a lot of fun.
 
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Lee Saxon said:
BRaw's 3:1 drops to rational levels probably more in the ballpark of what we're talking about for Komodo. However, there are still anecdotal reports out there of dropped frame issues even at compressed rates.
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I haven't been able to get reliable performance with BRAW 3:1 (or Q0) on the Pocket 6K. Sometimes it works fine and sometimes it fails after a few seconds. It's not really consistent and doesn't seem to be dependent on motion, complexity of details in the scene, etc. 3:1 BRAW is 323 MB/s which is a decent amount below the advertised sustained write of most high performance cards, so it could be a camera issue. Then again, if you dig into the specs, nearly every card has a minimum write speed of 130 MB/s, which could be a problem. Redcode RAW 6K 3:1 is actually only around 244 MB/s, so this might well be a non-issue for Komodo (if it has 3:1).
 
I own an FS7 and typically work with rented cameras (Red/Arri/Venice) for non-doc stuff with a little budget. The FX9 and C500 II both are very attractive as potential upgrades, on the one hand; on the other, last year I nearly pulled the trigger on a Scarlet-W. But I've been holding off on a decision until there's been a chance to really evaluate Komodo.

They're all quite different cameras-- but are part of the same discussion about investment as an owner-operator. Setting aside my thoughts on full frame, I see the FX9 as a nice direct upgrade to the FS7 (lots of image upgrades at an attractive price, timecode, etc.), and the C500II as better able to play a bit both in doc and narrative/commercial world due to the availability of a higher res RAW workflow. With the FX9, I'd still be renting for most narrative stuff. But how often would the C500II be billable as a replacement for a Red or Arri, or would I still always be renting-- and with a more expensive camera that you can't just throw up on your shoulder the way you can an FS7? So, while a lot about the Komodo remains a question mark, I'm definitely one of those indie filmmakers interested in testing Komodo as an A-cam on the type of job where I'm currently renting a Scarlet-W or 6k Dragon. I'm excited about the idea of being able to offer Red's proven capabilities in the narrative/commercial world (top-tier s35 image quality, modularity, post workflow) for an investment under $10k-- and with the benefit of a global shutter.
With this in mind, I personally care less about built-in ND than how secure the mount is when used with PL lenses, less about lack of dual ISO than image quality at base ISO, less about HDMI ports than SDI ports that are easy to access and practical power solutions. And I'm eager to learn about the codecs and compression options-- and how they play out in the real world.
Looking forward to learning about this stuff with all of the rest of you...
 
Yep. I've sold quite a bit of older gear the last few months and am about to make my big purchase for the next few years. The C500 II is definitely a strong contender, perhaps with the 1DX III as a great B-Cam. But the file sizes in full-frame raw definitely give me pause.

Been waiting to see what the Komodo is and when I could get it. Definitely at the top of the list but projects are starting soon. And just not quite enough information out there yet to make a final decision. Hoping for a launch soon.

Any updates from the Red team? Mid February - March still on track for getting it into buyers' hands?
 
OK- so with the new Bayhem Komodo, I have a theory....

Bayhem Helium was first shown to public on July 11, 2017.

Helium was available to purchase October 11, 2017.

3 month window.... I think this baby is dropping soon... :)
 
Andrew Dease said:
While I hope this is all true, you can add to your speculation where Jarred wrote three months AFTER he gets his stormtrooper, that the camera his then released. Something like that, in this ginormous thread...
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Yea, that's the timeline I'm going with, which I think was around November 15th. So, still hopeful that we'll have some Komodos shipping by Feb 15 - March 15th.
 
Colton John McLaughlin said:
Would this battery plate be a good fit for Komodo? Same Lemo plug for DC power? https://www.arri.com/en/camera-systems/special/K2.0014531 I really want to run the new GDU batteries with Komodo for when i have longer set ups but to keep the weight down as well... https://global-dynamics-united.myshopify.com/products/v-lock That is, unless GDU will make some canon style dual battery with the same beautiful encasing ��
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A pair of these BP-970's gets you 115 WH vs 98WH for the single GDU. You can buy four for less than the cost of the GDU and hot swap them one at a time to keep the camera up and running indefinitely. One of these will run my old GL2 continuously for 4-6 hours depending on how much time is spent rolling tape. No adapter or cables needed.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/835634-REG/watson_b_1514_bp_970_lithium_ion_battery_pack.html
 
Wanted to touch down on a few topics:

Stormtrooper Komodo

Jarred already has his:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B66b-1hBt1I/

Media Cards

Just want to provide some insight on media cards in general.

If we're looking at CFast and CFexpress range style cards they have a printed max read and write speed on them. Almost always this refers to the burst speed read/write and provides not much info on what we as filmmakers care about.

What we do care about is Sustained Reads/Writes. That generally informs us of what the media can actually do and how that speed can be utilized in a camera.

But there's more. Flash Media behaves differently at different points in it's life as well as under different temperature conditions. And you need to also provide a little more room when figuring out what you can do due to individual media variance.

This is a fun thing because on the web most media tests are pretty short and sweet, but never under long term study nor varying conditions. Sort of the reason why companies do so many stress tests on stuff like.

We're discovering a lot on the latest generation of CFexpress cards and they do get bloody hot. They are a faster media for sure than CFast, but I'm going to be curious to see how 1-3 months in on rigorous shooting conditions treats them. I suspect this is why the C500 MK II and FX9 don't exactly hit anything close to the max sustained read/writes. But that's just a hunch.

Powering Komodo

At the moment it's Canon BP. And yes you can use a V-Lock plate to Lemo cable adapter to Komodo for real long runtimes. I'm not 100% sure, but I think a V-Mount adapter could be made to slap on the booty of the Komodo which would pair well w/ the newer GDU batteries that just dropped today and they are nearly exactly 4 inches tall. The other real gain there is longer uptime as well as crazy concepts like shark fins and all that for insane battery life without cables involved. If that's gonna be a thing I hope that's ready around launch.

Monitoring/B]

I think it's a stay tuned thing for now. Everybody is seeing the SDI cable solutions, but we have yet to see a pogo driven concept. I imagine that will be the next big drop from Jarred, but who knows, could be other stuff.
 
David Rasberry said:
A pair of these BP-970's gets you 115 WH vs 98WH for the single GDU. You can buy four for less than the cost of the GDU and hot swap them one at a time to keep the camera up and running indefinitely. One of these will run my old GL2 continuously for 4-6 hours depending on how much time is spent rolling tape. No adapter or cables needed.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/835634-REG/watson_b_1514_bp_970_lithium_ion_battery_pack.html
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Wow I didn’t realize they were so powerful. Fair enough! Still hoping for some GDU BP-style batteries just because I’m a bit of a fanboy... love the red casing.
 
Phil Holland said:
Wanted to touch down on a few topics:

Stormtrooper Komodo

Jarred already has his:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B66b-1hBt1I/

Media Cards

Just want to provide some insight on media cards in general.

If we're looking at CFast and CFexpress range style cards they have a printed max read and write speed on them. Almost always this refers to the burst speed read/write and provides not much info on what we as filmmakers care about.

What we do care about is Sustained Reads/Writes. That generally informs us of what the media can actually do and how that speed can be utilized in a camera.

But there's more. Flash Media behaves differently at different points in it's life as well as under different temperature conditions. And you need to also provide a little more room when figuring out what you can do due to individual media variance.

This is a fun thing because on the web most media tests are pretty short and sweet, but never under long term study nor varying conditions. Sort of the reason why companies do so many stress tests on stuff like.

We're discovering a lot on the latest generation of CFexpress cards and they do get bloody hot. They are a faster media for sure than CFast, but I'm going to be curious to see how 1-3 months in on rigorous shooting conditions treats them. I suspect this is why the C500 MK II and FX9 don't exactly hit anything close to the max sustained read/writes. But that's just a hunch.
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In your estimation, what would you consider to be the most prudent media choice for capturing footage with Komodo?

Thanks,
Julian
 
Julian Ogans said:
In your estimation, what would you consider to be the most prudent media choice for capturing footage with Komodo?
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A reputable and fast brand of CFast 2.0. I'd personally aim at 512GB or 1TB media.
 
Phil Holland said:
A reputable and fast brand of CFast 2.0. I'd personally aim at 512GB or 1TB media.
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Any brand in particular? I've always had good results with SanDisk media in the past when using SD cards, but CFast 2.0 is a different animal.

Julian
 
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