KOMODO Price?

[Clayton Burns]

Hey so I’ve heard a lot of people stating that the ST and CC KOMODOs are 7,000.00 USD

Do we have a full price of the regular models yet?

It’s still really early so I’m not too sure if this can be shared yet but I am wondering what I will be paying for one (or more) black KOMODOs

 

[Christoffer Glans]

The final official release goes for under $5000 with the Hydrogen discount. Based on Jarreds earlier post, that means literary just under, so $4995 would be a good guess. Regular version of the official release should be reasonable to assume between $6000-$6500, since the discount should approximately match what people bought the hydrogen for or at least it won't be over $1500.

So my best assumption would be $6500 for the regular official release non-discount version.

 

[David Rasberry]

Last I remember from Jarred is $1k discount for hydrogen owners for one Komodo by registered serial number. Target release price is $6k ish, but will be determined by project cost. He also said that he is losing thousands on each of the beta version cameras but considers it worth it for the feed back.
Those are apparently being hand assembled and tested by his engineering team, so associated labor costs would much higher than full assembly line production.

 

[Christopher A. Bell]

Hey so I’ve heard a lot of people stating that the ST and CC KOMODOs are 7,000.00 USD

Do we have a full price of the regular models yet?

It’s still really early so I’m not too sure if this can be shared yet but I am wondering what I will be paying for one (or more) black KOMODOs

The final official release goes for under $5000 with the Hydrogen discount. Based on Jarreds earlier post, that means literary just under, so $4995 would be a good guess. Regular version of the official release should be reasonable to assume between $6000-$6500, since the discount should approximately match what people bought the hydrogen for or at least it won't be over $1500.

So my best assumption would be $6500 for the regular official release non-discount version.

Obviously things can change, but right now it looks like $6K for a regular production black Komodo and the Hydrogen discount(stated as $1K) will net you a $5K Komodo.

 

[Peter Stanley]

I hope they keep it a $6000

Otherwise I would of put myself on the stormtrooper list when I had a chance. I only didn’t to save a bit of coin cos I didn’t need it yet. I know it’s never been ‘fact’ but $6000 for the production models has always been the number floating around and often mentioned as ‘the’ cost. Hope it’s $6000.

 

[David Rasberry]

I hope they keep it a $6000

Otherwise I would of put myself on the stormtrooper list when I had a chance. I only didn’t to save a bit of coin cos I didn’t need it yet. I know it’s never been ‘fact’ but $6000 for the production models has always been the number floating around and often mentioned as ‘the’ cost. Hope it’s $6000.

Me too! $6k pushes my budget limits pretty hard. Really works out to $8k give or take with some C-Fast 2 cards and a couple of lens adapters. Fortunately that is all I should need. Everything else necessary to shoot it is in my current inventory.

 

[Kwan Khan]

Trying to find out how EDU discount will work for Hydrogen owner , still no answer (lol)

 

[paulcurtis]

Hopefully Red does the right thing and drops their prices.

That’s what the Red One was, that’s what got Epic-W in a lot of hands.

A Helium Brain is still $20k+ whereas Komodo is being suggested at nearly a quarter of that price? How much further do they need to go?!

cheers
Paul

 

[J. Orlandi]

Hopefully Red does the right thing and drops their prices.

That’s what the Red One was, that’s what got Epic-W in a lot of hands.

What???? umm ... If you can't afford the Komodo, then it's not the right camera for you.

A Helium Brain is still $20k+ whereas Komodo is being suggested at nearly a quarter of that price? How much further do they need to go?!

cheers
Paul

Exactly. Komodo is an AMAZING price for what I paid for my stormtrooper version at $7K so yeah. RED doesn't need to give their cameras away.

 

[Bernd Wondollek]

And the day Arri makes a low cost camera, what then.[/QUOTE]

rest assured... the day arri makes a low cost camera, paints it white, and sells it out the back door of their factory like groceries, is the day that hell will freeze over....

 

[Jon Carr]

For what the Komodo can do and what’s its potential when they do the release firmware. I would have paid 10k for the body. It’s a great little camera we can throw in a job when needed. Makes the owner op business a little easier.

 

[Christian Jadot]

I see it as a spot on price at $5,995.

I would hesitate to purchase it above the $6,000 price point and I would most likely be looking to buy a used DSMC1 Dragon instead. (With all my DSMC1 Scarlet X gear, it would be the best option FOR ME above the price point.)

At $4,995 with the Hydrogen discount ... I am just waiting very very impatiently ... As Fry would say, "Take my money NOW."

 

[Christopher A. Bell]

Red has a history of cutting prices in half.

Another company does too recently, called Black Magic.

There is a lot of competition now.

Epic-W was a lot more than 20k when it was released. They dropped the price considerably.

We are on "Reduser" but perhaps you should see what people say everywhere else on the internet.


6K is still not affordable to people.


Glad it is for you.


Look at all the camera offerings. Red is not ARRI.

And the day Arri makes a low cost camera, what then.

I’m trying to figure out the perspective that this comment is coming from. I think you need to rephrase your comment to, “$6K is not affordable to ALL people” and then think about that. We’re not talking about consumer camcorders manufactured by the 100K’s or millions and sold at Best Buy for someone to shoot their kids soccer game. Most people can’t afford a few hundred $K for a new Ferrari, either. And guess what, most people don’t buy and own them. Not everything is manufactured for the widespread consumer market. We’re talking about specialized tools built for a fairly niche market. 14 years ago I bought a VariCam. Native 720P. $45K. Nine years ago, I bought a new version, still native 720P, that listed for $40K. The next year I bought another. And didn’t think twice about it, because I was buying them for work and had the work to justify the cost. Now we have a native 6K camera for ~$6K. If you think $6K is too much and you’re buying it for professional use, maybe you need to be charging more or you need to wait until business picks up enough to justify it or it’s just not the right tool for you. If you’re just buying it for a toy/you’re an amateur and not making money with it(not saying anything about talent), then the answer is the same, don’t buy it. Just because you want something and you want it to be cheaper, doesn’t make it so. Where did this everyone must be able to have it(everything) attitude come from, that is so prevalent today? This is a cinema camera. We’re not talking about necessities for life here.

 

[M Harvey]

Where did this everyone must be able to have it(everything) attitude come from, that is so prevalent today? This is a cinema camera. We’re not talking about necessities for life here.

I'm with you. I don't know anything about the perspective of the OP on this thread, but I sometimes feel-- usually on other sites-- like I'm following a discussion about sports teams, like "ooh, Canon just put out 8k, how will Sony respond?" There's competition among companies but, like, just buy the camera you can afford suited to the task you want to do.

I do love the idea of Arri getting into the low-end market. Anyone remember the Hasselblad point-and-shoot? :laugh:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/2...nounces-stellar-sony-rx100-based-20mp-compact

 

[paulcurtis]

Red has a history of cutting prices in half.
Another company does too recently, called Black Magic.
There is a lot of competition now.
Epic-W was a lot more than 20k when it was released. They dropped the price considerably.
6K is still not affordable to people.
Glad it is for you.
Look at all the camera offerings. Red is not ARRI.
And the day Arri makes a low cost camera, what then.

It's about whether the camera pays for itself through earned work?

Competition is great. There's a lot to choose from and BMD are making some nice cameras now.

But no matter how you cut it $6k for what the komodo does is still IMHO a better choice than anything else i can see at the moment...

- A7sIII, great option but it's a stills camera and not RAW on board. Range yet to be tested
- SH1 etc,. all similar
- Kinefinity and ZCam, all similar
- Sigma fp (I have one and it's great) similar

By that i mean all those cameras above seem to be using the same or similar sensors and if that's the case they're all 12 bit off the silicon and, in motion, limited to that (we don't know about the A7sIII yet though). I have the fp and think it's an amazing camera but from a practical view i shoot Helium indoors with windows in frame at an exposure i am comfortable with but the sigma i can't do that because there are 2 stops missing at the top which clip my scene.

I would say in day to day shooting i need 14 stops min otherwise i am spending a lot more time controlling light and taking longer. Even the 12k BMD appears to have a similar range (untested?)

I fail to understand why this isn't the No1 issue for people shooting... you need decent real dynamic range...

Komodo is apparently similar to Helium and that makes a difference compared to the others.

Oh and Komodo is a global shutter and that is a *huge* difference personally as some of the work i do ends up as VFX plates and tracking through rolling shutter can be a nightmare...

I guess i'm coming from the view of having loads of prosumer cameras over the decades to Red and being able to shoot as i want. And i see this as such a bargain price for being able to do it at a hugely reduced cost. However if you're still coming up the prosumer camera ranks maybe that 6k is more of a jump then you'd like.

Red has a history of offering customers great discounts. Red is closer to Arri than BMD is.

Anyway, IMHO 6K for what you get is a great price. But there are other options out there if that's too much of a leap. I can seriously recommend the fp as an awesome tiny RAW camera - it's crazy what they've done in that package. But it's is 12 bit RAW...

cheers
Paul