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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

January 2016 update

sam karr said:
What happened to the Scarlet-W? It seems it was capable of 4:1 @5k 24fps and 8:1 @ 5KWS 60fps / 5K 48fps. The specs are now 5:1 and 9:1..... One point of compression lost almost everywhere at the different resolutions.

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1449880577.jpg
http://www.red.com/products/scarlet-w#tech-specs
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There is a note down below that says:

"REDCODE values and max frame rates may vary based on selected acquisition format, aspect ratio, project time base, Lookaround setting, and SSD."

I'm pretty sure that to get the max out of Scarlet-W you will still need 512GB or 1TB SSDs. My guess is it's the same as with original Epic Dragon that got 1-2 point knocked down off compression after it was paired with fast 512GBs.

Wouldn't advice to buy 120GB or 240GB anyway. RED media is not cheap and it's better to invest in the fastest available from the get go if you plan to move up to Weapon later. And you can always sell it faster if you want, unlike 120s and 240s that present no interest for Weapon owners because of the data rate limitations.
 
Demetri Zuev said:
I'm pretty sure that to get the max out of Scarlet-W you will still need 512GB or 1TB SSDs.
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The Red store states that the 120GB and 240GB can do up to 225 MB/s, which is well over what is required for the max 140 MB/s limitation of the Raven or Scarlet-W. Only the Weapon CF can take advantage of the 512GB and 1TB.
 
Nathan DuMoulin said:
I see what you're saying. The two ratios you listed would each be 127MB/s, while only one has been changed. Perhaps there is a half MB difference between the two, and that was the breaking point?

Either way, I sure hope you're right in that it's simply an error.
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I don't think its an error guys. The DSMC media operation guide on page 94 (updated on January 15th) states "SCARLET-W REDCODE and frame rate pairings are identical for all RED MINI-MAG media." 5k FF @ 24fps is indeed 5:1. When I placed my preorder I thought the camera was going to be twice as fast as the Red Scarlet Dragon. Maybe Jarred can chime in on the change.
 
Hoping we'll get an official response, but now it's got me thinking about going all in with weapon Mg. I'm just weighing everything today. I want to go weapon eventually anyway, so starting there is probably cheaper than upgrading in the future.
 
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Jarred and Brent are on the case. Apparently nothing has changed in camera, just a basic mix up between departments.

Honestly, it's Sunday. The fact that the Red team is on this so quickly, with total transparency, is pretty commendable.
 
Aaron michaels said:
Not long before they offer an Epix-x to weapon trade.
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Not possible. Epic X's path was to Dragon. Epic Dragon's path is to Weapon.

There is always the "sell your gear and buy the latest gear new" upgrade path for those (myself included) who are still rocking the M-X sensor.
 
Naaa.. Red sell cameras and after everyone has theirs and sells are low they will cut a deal like always. they know everyone couldn't make that deadline and they want the money. how do you think people got an Epic-x , battle tested red one etc. its all business and they are in the business to sell camera's. You have high demands and low demands but if you are sitting on high volume of cameras and low sales you cut prices and make deals, its the nature of the beast. The can make an option to go personal and say for instance " we said no Epic-x upgrades" but would that be smart business? it may not cost you now but it will cost you. we went from an scarlet to epic-x to Epic dragon etc. which is smart business. To make a move and stop upgrades will cause a ripple effect in your market like people dumping their cameras to novice and buying consumer cameras because they are P.O It may not matter now but it will in the long run. Look what happen to Sony with their 150,000 cine cameras. red stepped in and crushed the market =) To stop upgrades stops extra 10-30 G's cameras and parts to run it.
 
Sure, we will do Epic-X upgrades to Weapons. We will give you a 50% discount after we add a 200% handling fee :)
 
Jarred Land said:
Sure, we will do Epic-X upgrades to Weapons. We will give you a 50% discount after we add a 200% handling fee :)
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Aaron is trolling again. Mad about his crappy other brand camera and pretending he's been on the forum for more than 90 days and owns a red.
 
Well the great thing about red keeping us updated is i already own a red one and a epic-x. I have plans to do great things with them, people say old but they are new to me. even greater than that is I get to look at the future of Red cameras so I can plan my next steps while you guys do testing and pushing them to the limit. It took me seven years to own two MX cameras that also have an outstanding track record. I have the tools I need to start making the films I want to make for now thanks to the Red teams and company busting their asses to make a dream come true for everyone. Thanks jarred! I know people try to compare the ARRI to Red cameras but for me I still say they have the RED look. Go with the company that continues to push the bar and cares about your professional issues with your gear, we are not perfect but we all continue to strive for perfection.
 
Jarred Land said:
It has already been a very Happy New Year :)

Making great progress on the Weapon Woven Carbon upgrades.. On track to finish sending out notifications inside the next 2 weeks.

MG Weapon upgrades will immediately commence following that and new MG Weapons will begin to ship Feb. 5th.
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So now that it's the 28th, do you have any updated info about the MG upgrades? Should people be expecting upgrade emails this week or early next?
 
Got my CF email, it's moving don't worry. I signed up last day too... So there making good time
 
Matthew J said:
So now that it's the 28th, do you have any updated info about the MG upgrades? Should people be expecting upgrade emails this week or early next?
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my buddy was expecting an email by the 27th @@. would be awesome get a plan cuz he may need to borrow my camera so he can send his in right away!
 
Brian Merlen said:
Got my CF email, it's moving don't worry. I signed up last day too... So there making good time
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That means... drum roll... that the MGs will start any moment :thumbup:
 
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