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It‘s a great camera, but... some odd quality issues on #112

Dustin Cross said:
I own a tape measure that has both metric and imperial, so it is not a problem. It is very cheap to buy a tape measure that has both. You are buying Red lenses because you want to save money, so add a $20 metric/imperial tape measure and start shooting.
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It's not about mesuring but about references. Have you been 1rst assist?

So you should know that you have to have an eye to be able to estimate accuratly distance and immediatly change it on the lens without to take any conversion table... This has to be intuitive and precise based on long experience of meters scaling... You don't improvise this with the help of a 20$ tape mesurement.

See you.

Pat
 
digitalfx said:
Could he not see in the photos that it is only marked in feet.
http://www.red.com/store/show_by_tags/Lenses

Usually before I order something, I investigate exactly what I am ordering. A quick call to Red would have confirmed this. So this shouldnt have been a total surprise.

Remember this is a $6500 lens...the Cooke equivalent is 9X the price.
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Come on Greg

It wouldn't cost 9x the price to have had metric markings in the first place, but what would you do then, buy some Cooke ???
 
red1225 said:
If your focus puller can't tell the difference between Imperial and Metric...you've got a serious fuc*ing problem.

Go get some Angen#@*&%^...French lenses.
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F****** ARROGANT
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
To all you guys in imperial wonderland :

Please don't all get arrogant at the same time…
Save some of that arrogance for tomorrow.

There is no logical reason for not providing metric, there maybe some other reasons, but walk a mile in our shoes before posting… PLEASE
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You are correct, its easier for us to accept this....sorry if this is confused with arrogance.

Not to mention, as a resident of Imperial Wonderland we get free mushrooms.
 
Kelly is my darling!!!!!!!!!!

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ibloom said:
That's 1.60934km guys. :turned:

At least you have the falling dollar to soften this blow. But, I agree it's extremely odd choice for a lense manufacturer.

IBloom
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Thank you so much IBloom:love:
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
Come on Greg

It wouldn't cost 9x the price to have had metric markings in the first place, but what would you do then, buy some Cooke ???
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Thats not what I was implying. I was simply saying you can buy 9 Red Zooms w/ imperial marks or 1 Cooke Zoom w/ both marks...take your pick. It was really intended to respond to th "I cant rent these" remark. Sure you can...if you offered a zoom for $50/day w/ imperial marks only and a Cooke zoom for $300/day that had both marks I think you might find customers that suddenly accept the imperial marks.
 
florianstadler.com said:
3) Battery Lock on Quickplate
MUST BE FIXED. I haven't been aware of this being a problem. Anybody else have this problem?
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Yes, I mentioned it several months ago in this post and basically got blasted for it. Among all of the positives I see with the camera, there are still a few weak points. I will say that mounting the battery several times eventually helps it to be seated more securely and I am having much better results compared to when I first received the camera (on day one, it popped off just as easily as it does in ready2roll's video). But I still can't get my handle grips tight enough and that is a concern.

Let me say that RED's service has been absolutely top-notch; when my camera had an issue, they sent a loaner body to me the very next day along with a tech to figure out the problem and get things right. I have never seen customer care on this level before. So please don't confuse my criticism of the few minor flaws the RED ONE still has with an attack on the company. Sometimes it seems people just focus on the bad even though I have plenty of good things to say right next to it... but there are still problems that need to be addressed and it is important (if not essential) to get the bugs worked out.
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
To all you guys in imperial wonderland :

Please don't all get arrogant at the same time…
Save some of that arrogance for tomorrow.

There is no logical reason for not providing metric, there maybe some other reasons, but walk a mile in our shoes before posting… PLEASE
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If I was in your shoes I would get a different lens. If the lens was ONLY metric, I personally wouldn't mind, but I know my AC would. Easy solution, I would have to get a different lens. Cooke 18-100 comes to mind.

It also seems arrogant to not just accept something they clearly said they can't do. It's obviously an issue of already having the lenses manufactured. It IS an unfortunate mistake I agree, but it's clearly a mistake that can't be rectified (at least with the 18-50).
 
red1225 said:
HOLD ONTO THE MATTE BOX LIKE ALL OTHER PROFESSIONAL OPERATORS!!!!
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If I'm handholding a 435/535, I think it would be really strange/irresponsible to not hold onto the handles and hold by the matte box instead. I'm confused by your post. And I'm a professional. Can you explain what you mean?
 
how can i ask clients to adapt?

how can i ask clients to adapt?

REMY said:
Where I come from and what I've been taught is to overcome and adapt.
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As said earlier, it's more a problem with clients. I'm sure most RED owners can overcome and adapt, but i can't ask my customers to overcome and adapt.
I just can ask it to myself.
I want my customers to feel as much comfortable as possible, the same way Jim Jannard wants with us. On production, gear with a different measure system can be quite distracting, i do not need to tell you.
On the other hand, i've chosen the RED team because they've demonstrated to be able to listen and understand customer needs also on very complicated and demanding issues.
This one doesn't seem so impossible.
Rudi Herbert is right, measuring scales are a weird and divisive thing, but that's why, i think, we feel this minor "feat" of design could be a big problem among our potential customers.
We all know, filmmaking is a collective process, so i can ask myself to adapt, but not assume everyone i'll work with to be willing to overcome this.
Again, i think RED is underestimating the problem.
 
digitalfx said:
Thats not what I was implying. I was simply saying you can buy 9 Red Zooms w/ imperial marks or 1 Cooke Zoom w/ both marks...take your pick. It was really intended to respond to th "I cant rent these" remark. Sure you can...if you offered a zoom for $50/day w/ imperial marks only and a Cooke zoom for $300/day that had both marks I think you might find customers that suddenly accept the imperial marks.
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Hey Greg… love you man.

But let's all face it one time for all:

This sucks big time for us in metric land, and there is nothing any of you can say,(be it smart or not so), that would make us feel better about this.

If it was the other way around you guys from Brooklin to L.A. would be yelling so loud we couldn't here ourselves playing cards in france.

WE NEED YOUR SYMPATHY AND SOLIDARITY NOT AGAINST RED BUT BECAUSE OUR CAUSE IS A JUST ONE.

Yours

Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
If it was the other way around you guys from Brooklin to L.A. would be yelling so loud we couldn't here ourselves playing cards in france.
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That's where you're wrong. I would just believe what Jarred said and buy a different lens. I'm already not using the Red lenses for other reasons than this.
 
I suggest some sports.
 
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