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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

It‘s a great camera, but... some odd quality issues on #112

Hey. . . who knows? Someone might be using their RED lenses in Liberia!

:-)

Stephen
 
Sorry I don't really get the whole point of "it can't be done". It's a ring that is engraved... What's the whole issue about?
I wouldn't mind some "fair" extra cost, as "fair" is a word which came up often on the threads here. It's simply a must to be able to deliver metric markers. Please name a price and I will rethink my cancellation of the Red-lenses.
 
chas said:
shouldn't it be the other way around?

you could find out how much it would cost, and ask us if we would be willing to pay for it?
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tough crowd...

Again, we arn't going to do it, but im sure some of the companies that specialize in this would love to know if they had a market or not..
 
ready2roll said:
3) Battery Lock on Quickplate
The lock on the battery plate is not preventing the battery from falling out of the mount. A fairly small pressure is enough to push the red brick out off it‘s locked position in the V-mount.
We‘re talking about professional cine gear here! I don‘t like to see the battery falling off in a middle of a hand held shot... (For some reason it is only happening on the Quickplate and not on the Red Cradle).
In general all batteries feel pretty loose in the V-mounts on every Red Mounting plate (but this has been dissused already in various threads).
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Some plates need a quick break of mounting and unmounting a battery
about twenty times for it to properly lock. Please try this and let us know.
 
ready2roll said:
Sorry I don't really get the whole point of "it can't be done". It's a ring that is engraved... What's the whole issue about?
I wouldn't mind some "fair" extra cost, as "fair" is a word which came up often on the threads here. It's simply a must to be able to deliver metric markers. Please name a price and I will rethink my cancellation of the Red-lenses.
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Believe me, it must be contractual. There's no other explanation, as Red has demonstrated a willingness to meet the needs of their customers. On a critical issue like this, the only answer that seems logical to me is that it's verboten through terms of contract with their supplier(s).
 
Evolve said:
Believe me, it must be contractual. There's no other explanation, as Red has demonstrated a willingness to meet the needs of their customers. On a critical issue like this, the only answer that seems logical to me is that it's verboten through terms of contract with their supplier(s).
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That's my thought as well. I suspect the contract Red has with the mysterious company that mysteriously rehouses their mysteriously-sourced lenses and adds markings that look just like the engravings Cooke puts on their lenses prohibits them from making lenses for the 'rest of the world'.

At least I won't have to worry about ending up with a set of weird metric lenses on a shoot any time soon. (sorry) :-)
 
Deanan said:
Some plates need a quick break of mounting and unmounting a battery
about twenty times for it to properly lock. Please try this and let us know.
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Hi Deanan,
I checked it out and it seems that there are two stages of locking on the battery. On the cradle the second level is easily reached by pushing it in, which means it is safely fixed then.

On the mounting plate of Quickplate it is not as smooth. You really have to push it in hard to get to the seconde level of locking. I assume most people would feel it is locked once they hear the click and not push it in harder. I tried about 40 times now. But once it's locked to the second stage it is fixed.
I will let you know if it get better over the time.

Thanks anyway,
Sebastian
 
flameop said:
I'd say just ask Cooke.

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Hi,

I asked Cooke about re engraving a Cooke 20-60 Zoom, they recommend another company in Leicestershire.

If it's properly done on each lens individually with witness marks I would expect it to cost about £500. Clearly a stick on scale made in bulk would be far cheaper.

Stephen
 
Evolve said:
Believe me, it must be contractual. There's no other explanation, as Red has demonstrated a willingness to meet the needs of their customers. On a critical issue like this, the only answer that seems logical to me is that it's verboten through terms of contract with their supplier(s).
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Yes, that's probably the only answer to this.
 
Having metric scales is a must, otherwise the lenses are useless in a normal production / rental enviroment here in Europe (except UK). Focuspullers are used to metric lenses here and they will never adopt to imperal.
I had to bring this up again, cause this is a very important point !
I´ve the 15-50 and 50-150 on order but I´d rather cancel the order of the lenses before I go with imperial scale. I can´t rent them out, it´s as simple as that.
Putting a metric sticker on a lens is a no go, stickers can go off, or put on wrong. There is a need for a metric focus ring or a ring with imperial and metric scale, even if it costs some bucks, otherwise i think a lot of European customers will reconsider bying the RED Lenses.

I´m also a bit confused, cause this issue was adressed many times from different clients at IBC back in September and it was said, RED will look into this. Jarreds statment now is a bit surprising.

I don´t want to sound negative, and I love what Jim and his Team is doing, and respect a lot what they are handling arround with, just wanted to point out again how important this issue is for Europe.

Now you can all beat me up for bringing it up again ;)

Manuel
 
Cooke lenses are handmade. If you want focus scales that are interchangable from them (1 metric and 1 imperial) you pretty much have to order them when you order a set of lenses. Each additional scale is £299.00

Regarding RED lenses a stick on lens scale is not a professional option. Perhaps some 3rd party could come up with a 2nd interchangable focus ring engraved in metric.
 
manuelwenger said:
I´m also a bit confused, cause this issue was adressed many times from different clients at IBC back in September and it was said, RED will look into this. Jarreds statment now is a bit surprising.
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I think his statement affirms that they "looked into it" as they said they would, or they wouldn't say they wouldn't do it.

Also, Thanks for taking care of this so fast. Just got the email that our red has landed, and can't wait to get off of work to go look at this monster!

THanks!
 
Jarred Land said:
I can answer this issue right now for you, we will unfortunately not be selling any lenses with metric scales.
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I read this 3 times now, and still don't believe it: You realy say "goodbye" to 50% of potential customers to buy your lenses?

And I'm shocked about this ARROGANCE - I never felt treated like this by a manufacture, even not by ARRI. And I never ever expect this from RED.

And the suggestions to get metric rings done by 3rd parties I also don't believe. It sounds to me like RED is not able to manufacture those rings. What a poor confession...

This is no good advertising for RED products. And I'm afraid the good attitude to look after customers wishes is gone with this. What a shame.

Today I lost the illusion, that RED is different. I had this dream now for about 1 year, and suddenly this dream is over - the moment when the first units got delivered and the truth appeared.

P.S.: I ordered I set of primes and the 18-85mm zoom lens and I will cancel these orders tomorrow. And of cause I dropped the idea to buy 2 other sets of primes and a pair of the other zoom lenses too.
 
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