It ain't the camera: It's YOU !

[Matt Ryan]

You went through all that effort, I'll give it a look. Thanks Matt. 43 minutes on the download.

Really? it's only 76mb...lol

 

[Will Keir]

We are talking beyond a first light CC here. Unless you have an example which will probably make the whole image too dark for taste.

Then... Push them down. They are underexposed and soft, so just "black them out" hahahaha

They make no sense and got no love from you when you shot them.
So don't force them to take focus by bringing them up!

Lol

Make decissions.

Cheers!

G

 

[Gunleik Groven]

As to good wide lenses with tons of detail... Primes...

Rpp. Masters.

The angie dp is one of my favourites, but not for that kind of shot. It is "gentle"

Probably the leicas, and a few still lenses.

 

[Will Keir]

Country internet

it beats dial up.

Really? it's only 76mb...lol

 

[Matt Ryan]

Country internet

it beats dial up.

hahaha

 

[Will Keir]

First your calling me soft, then your making fun of my internet. This is getting serious Mr. Hayslett!

Really? it's only 76mb...lol

 

[Gunleik Groven]

Yes, I am talking about a CC...

 

[Will Keir]

11 minutes.

and now 12

 

[Will Keir]

A heavy handed CC.

Yes, I am talking about a CC...

 

[Will Keir]

I decided to wait or hire out my CC suite. 4k is just around the corner now and will be a good investment for projects. I'm thinking the RED laser projector will be the ticket.

Yes, I am talking about a CC...

 

[Gunleik Groven]

A heavy handed CC.

Hahaha

Not really. It is not too far in matts example.

If tou look at films, people light and expose for looks. I think that is more of the problem. A"fat" negative, isn't really good to have, if it dies not give priority to what you want to see in there. It is just a technical exposure with lots of info. And those will often need a heavyhanded (as you call it) cc to make sense, but that is due to the dop NOT taking proper exposuredecissions on set.

 

[Matt Ryan]

Yeah, If you have secondaries to isolate the darks, or just the lows in the trees, you can bring them down further, thus hiding the compression noise. Then you can make the rest bright and vibrant if you like.

 

[Matt Ryan]

I'll play with this is Resolve later and see what can be done.

 

[Gunleik Groven]

@ will

To be really simplistic

Shutter controlls motion
Aperture controlls dof (and sharpness/caracter of the lens)
Filters controll exposure.

You need to controll all those elements and make lightingdecissions - even in natural light, to create/capture an image.

Metadata does influence the other decissions a lot, though for all photographers I have been able to observe. So be very cautius about what you do with metadata on set, and in post.

@matt

Just a hunch here, but try starting from linear or redlog and see what you get out of the trees...

 

[Matt Ryan]

@matt

Just a hunch here, but try starting from linear or redlog and see what you get out of the trees...

Will do linear, redlog, redlogfilm, and redgamma3 just for fun. I'll post the images up here pre color and post color and then a couple 100% crops.

 

[Sergio Perez]

Ah! You got me, you have a keen eye Mr. Groven! However that was my error in POST, not on the shoot or in camera rental mixups. When viewed at 320 ISO the image is too dark and the Pine trees on the other side of the lake still fall apart.

Here is a correct screen shot with all the sliders at default. Here is a more accurate representation of my shot in RCX.

Hi Will,

My own 2 cents on the subject. I normally shoot a LOT of high speed material, and what I've learned from my own trial and error is that I shoot at 640 ISO and make the exposure lean a bit to the right for best results. If possible and I don't require the most dinamic range, I shoot and expose for 320 Iso, again, adding a half a stop to a stop (without blowing out highlights) to get clean 300 FPS footage. Of course Black shading prior the job is mandatory. I have no problms jumping betweeh 120FPS 5K WS to a 300 FPS WS 2K in a shoot with the blackshade done for the 5K setting. Make sure to do this with the camera fully at operation temperature. Again, my 2 cents!

 

[Gunleik Groven]

Will do linear, redlog, redlogfilm, and redgamma3 just for fun. I'll post the images up here pre color and post color and then a couple 100% crops.

You are too good and helpfull these days!

 

[Gunleik Groven]

All very good advices Sergio!

 

[Will Keir]

How do I apply your RMD to my R3Ds?

 

[Will Keir]

The stills only give so much. Really need to see the images moving to judge a CC pass/correction.

Will do linear, redlog, redlogfilm, and redgamma3 just for fun. I'll post the images up here pre color and post color and then a couple 100% crops.