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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

I am going to return my copy of DaVinci to B&H as it is now worthless

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Paul.
You just proved my point. The agency wanted Oliver Stone and no one else will do. Of coarse they hire the director for his vision. There is not much tech to that, unless it's some kind of VFX heavy spot. Agency makes all hiring decisions. They are not tech savvy and they don't have to be. I work with many producers and technology is not their forte. They just hear buzz words and that is what they want. Epic is a superior camera in just about every technical aspect, but I forgot when was the last time I worked with it. It's all Alexa. Marketing!!!
Right now ad agencies are very excited to use my remote grading services, because it's new and not many people had used it up to now. But once it will become a common occurrence, I have no doubt, they will start requesting Baselight or FilmMaster or Lustre. Because that's what they know. I don't like it. It's just a reality. Plain and simple.
 
Actually, I think you kinda missed my point. :smile: But I'm right in the middle of a big edit at the moment so I am finding it difficult to deal with the distraction of this conversation. I will leave you with this thought. If you were watching a performance by Stephane Grappelli, would you really care if he was playing a stradivarius or not?

Have a nice evening.
 
Paul.
You missed my point as well.
Oliver Stone could walk in naked, drunk out of his mind and the agency still would be ecstatic, that they managed to bag THE NAME director for a commercial. Yo Yo Ma could play on cello borrowed from pawn shop and people still would give him a standing ovation. We're are not in the same situation. There is one Oliver Stone and one Yo Yo Ma. There are thousand of colorists to choose from. And someone, like you should know better, that appearances matter, notoriety matters, coolness factor matters, name recognition matters. You're confusing one of a kind, unique with a mass product. Prosumer is anything, but unique. Let's face it. You need all of the accoutrements of being special, just to be in the game, but if you do not care how you're going to make yourself unique, you're on for a long ride to the top.
 
Well, mate, if you're arguing that the availability of Resolve Light means that some young kid could train himself up, work up a half decent reel out of nowhere, schmooze with the high level producers and CDs of multi-national ad agencies, convince them to risk colouring their enormous investment in cash time and client relations, and compete a skilled operator like you out of business, then maybe you are in the wrong business.

Or you could be that kid. And there are a few who are making that happen - see www.b3ta.com to see amateurs and pros creating memes that quickly turn into money. Several of the 'amateur talents' from that crowd are now making good livings in British TV and advertising.

Or you could think like Nevine Kamel and only deal with pros, because of the reasons she states in the post at the top of this page http://reduser.net/forum/showthread...s-about-5-times-as-the-Scarlet-package/page17 (this is also the reason that I work from my own home studio and charge full commercial rates, only charge out to multi-nationals who pay top dollar. No weddings, no domestics, commercial work only. Let the cheap guys run themselves into the ground chasing the cheap dollar)

You see, it's up to you to define your market and who you are within it, not the hardware or software that you use.
Your own words " appearances matter, notoriety matters, coolness factor matters, name recognition matters." - yes. So come on, play the game. If you want to be a rockstar colourist, learn how to use PR. Set up a website where you dish out tips. Do regular interviews in the trade. Schmooze, work the crowds. Please everyone. Or do a Lars Trier and piss them all off. Your choice. :smile:

You're not the first guy to see cheap tech affect his industry. That's been happening since Henry Ford. Resolve will be replaced by something else more advanced soon. If not by BM, then by someone else. I hope you'll be looking for, and riding that wave long before the rest of the crowd.

Got to go, I should be editing
 
Am I missing something here? Resolve Lite does not need BM hardware, right? Can't it run on any hardware? In which case is BM selling more hardware by virtue of the fact that people who own Resolve Lite will be familiar w/ the BM name?
 
Paul Russell said:
Well, mate, if you're arguing that the availability of Resolve Light means that some young kid could train himself up, work up a half decent reel out of nowhere, schmooze with the high level producers and CDs of multi-national ad agencies, convince them to risk colouring their enormous investment in cash time and client relations, and compete a skilled operator like you out of business, then maybe you are in the wrong business.

Or you could be that kid. And there are a few who are making that happen - see www.b3ta.com to see amateurs and pros creating memes that quickly turn into money. Several of the 'amateur talents' from that crowd are now making good livings in British TV and advertising.

Or you could think like Nevine Kamel and only deal with pros, because of the reasons she states in the post at the top of this page http://reduser.net/forum/showthread...s-about-5-times-as-the-Scarlet-package/page17 (this is also the reason that I work from my own home studio and charge full commercial rates, only charge out to multi-nationals who pay top dollar. No weddings, no domestics, commercial work only. Let the cheap guys run themselves into the ground chasing the cheap dollar)

You see, it's up to you to define your market and who you are within it, not the hardware or software that you use.
Your own words " appearances matter, notoriety matters, coolness factor matters, name recognition matters." - yes. So come on, play the game. If you want to be a rockstar colourist, learn how to use PR. Set up a website where you dish out tips. Do regular interviews in the trade. Schmooze, work the crowds. Please everyone. Or do a Lars Trier and piss them all off. Your choice. :smile:

You're not the first guy to see cheap tech affect his industry. That's been happening since Henry Ford. Resolve will be replaced by something else more advanced soon. If not by BM, then by someone else. I hope you'll be looking for, and riding that wave long before the rest of the crowd.

Got to go, I should be editing
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And so, inevitably, the conversation turns into personal attack. You know nothing about me, so why so hostile and personal?
You don't agree, fine, stay on and argue your point... with someone else...
 
Peter Moretti said:
Am I missing something here? Resolve Lite does not need BM hardware, right? Can't it run on any hardware? In which case is BM selling more hardware by virtue of the fact that people who own Resolve Lite will be familiar w/ the BM name?
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Those people could do the same with an earlier version of Resolve Lite, when it was limited to two nodes.
 
jake blackstone said:
And so, inevitably, the conversation turns into personal attack. You know nothing about me, so why so hostile and personal?
You don't agree, fine, stay on and argue your point... with someone else...
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eh? I'm not trying to attack you at all. Sorry you're taking it that way. I mean you nothing but the best. Seriously.
Just trying to help you out with an alternative POV, that's all. Nothing personal.
 
jake blackstone said:
Those people could do the same with an earlier version of Resolve Lite, when it was limited to two nodes.
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Right Jake, I realize that. What I'm wondering is does Resolve work with any hardware? If this is indeed the case, then BMD is making quite a leap of faith thinking that Resolve Lite buyers are going to buy BMD hardware. Wouldn't they be just as likely to buy hardware from Matrox, AJA, Motu, etc.?
 
Peter Moretti said:
Right Jake, I realize that. What I'm wondering is does Resolve work with any hardware? If this is indeed the case, then BMD is making quite a leap of faith thinking that Resolve Lite buyers are going to buy BMD hardware. Wouldn't they be just as likely to buy hardware from Matrox, AJA, Motu, etc.?
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Oh, I see what you'e asking.
No, you need to use the BM hardware, even if you use Resolve Lite. This is the only way to display the full size picture on a monitor. Nothing else will do.
 
Okay, now I get it. I guess my next ?, being an Avid (and soon to be Adobe) user, is if anyone can recommend BMD hardware that works well w/ MC6, CS 5.5 and Resolve? I'll be running an i7 w/ 12gig and a Quadro 2000.
 
Peter Moretti said:
Okay, now I get it. I guess my next ?, being an Avid (and soon to be Adobe) user, is if anyone can recommend BMD hardware that works well w/ MC6, CS 5.5 and Resolve? I'll be running an i7 w/ 12gig and a Quadro 2000.
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Decklink works great with resolve and MC6.
 
I should have been more specific: People INVESTED in copies of Resolve. Small business owners, struggling to get by in this economy. BM burned us at a BUSINESS level (granted, me for only $1000, others previously for much more). I think it says nothing good about BM that they would be willing to burn their paying customers so casually. Yes, technology gets cheaper and cheaper, but generally software holds its value, or comes down in REASONABLE, stepped increments that are predictable. How long have I been upgrading my copy of Photoshop CS2? I never felt burned by Adobe, even though the soft is a bit cheaper now.
 
Who owns the work? copyright in 2016

Who owns the work? copyright in 2016

Rob,
BM won't keep the free version "Free" forever. Plenty of us have had similar situations, particularly with Adobe
frequent upgrades and associated costs in the hundreds of dollars.

There are plenty of other examples of buying a "Sony" and a few months later a new one comes out
that is cheaper and better. What about guys who bought a full version of FCP only to discover that a new FPX at $199
was good enough? The list goes on and on. The comparison is fair because your real gripe is about money.

I'm confident that your investment in the next iteration of Resolve will be relatively cheap and the new adopters
of the latest will have to pay up. Nothing is free forever.
 
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