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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

HDRx samples...

Another tagline for RED:
Spoils you silly with POST options!

Graeme is a genius and we are lucky to have him!
 
Graeme Nattress said:
It wouldn't help because even if you looked at the code, you'd be saying "what?" and "that can't work!".

Graeme
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That would happen if I would look at any code. :confused1: You'd have to explain it to me like you would to a complete layman.
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
I look at normal and I ask: Do I even need HDRx™?

M-X is a great sensor and the new color science is excellent.
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Many will ask themselves the same question... most of the time.

Jim
 
I can really see this being fantastic in the less than desirable outside hours of 11a-3p... harsh sun, desert, and snow. Over expose a bit to open up the shadows and blend down.

Being able to shoot RAW is a dream, let alone have HDR motion. That idea used to be just a joke... "Imagine if we had HDR video, dream on!"

Thanks to RED for making creative dreams come true!
 
I have a feeling that the underlying structure of HDRx will lead to some equally cool and interesting capabilities in the coming months. I assume the ability to mix the two streams can be manipulated over time? -- or soon will be?

Just think: in an Atom rig, you get four separate exposures. I can see applications where you completely sync up the two camera so they are not stereo and essentially give yourself a range approaching 30 stops.
 
As far as "needing" HDR: it is not only a method of protection, it is a means to personal expression. Take a look at long scale fine art photographs, ones that derive from masterfully processed negs i.e. waterbath development, staining/tanning development, pre-flashed and selenium intensification. Not to mention Platinum prints. 18 stops opens up a luminous new world of interpretive possibilities as far as cinema and color acquisition in general is concerned. And then consider digital post - not as a fix it solution, but for what it is, an extension of the creative process: and it all becomes too much for words.
 
Patrick Ready said:
I wonder if the blending done in post will be able to be saved as metadata in order to re-process later (RMD?). There are plenty of situations where "post" happens fairly early and the ability to manipulate is just too tempting for some...

Patrick Ready
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With R3D's you always have the option of going back in later and playing.
 
So I want to say this prior to seeing these stills, I had NO idea why Jim and the RED team pushed for making HDRx standard within all models. But now OMG; I see the light, and it is bright.

This just made me say "WOW", UNBELIEVABLE.
 
I can hear the song...

I see trees of green........ red roses too
I see em bloom..... for me and for you
And I think to myself.... what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue..... clouds of white
Bright blessed days....dark sacred nights
And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world.

The colors of a rainbow.....so pretty ..in the sky
Are also on the faces.....of people ..going by
I see friends shaking hands.....sayin.. how do you do
They're really sayin......i love you.

I hear babies cry...... I watch them grow
They'll learn much more.....than I'll never know
And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world

By George David Wiess / Bob Thiele
 
Bill Anderson said:
As far as "needing" HDR: it is not only a method of protection, it is a means to personal expression. Take a look at long scale fine art photographs, ones that derive from masterfully processed negs i.e. waterbath development, staining/tanning development, pre-flashed and selenium intensification. Not to mention Platinum prints. 18 stops opens up a luminous new world of interpretive possibilities as far as cinema and color acquisition in general is concerned. And then consider digital post - not as a fix it solution, but for what it is, an extension of the creative process: and it all becomes too much for words.
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So true man, I've seen an example of Ansel Adam's print from an original negative with very little processing, as good as it was it was nothing compared to with what he did after. It almost looked like it came from those 1-hour film processing at the local walgreens.
 
Djordje said:
I know this is not an important thing, but can we get this look in post using HDRx™™™™™™ mode ?
http://vimeo.com/11255484
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There will probably be an option for achieving this look in one of your favorite software. Just wait and see... :-)

Thor Melsted said:
You probably "can" but I for one really, really, really hope nobody does.
Tone mapping is easily the ugliest thing I've ever seen - that video is no exception. Yuck.
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Jay A. Kelley said:
That guy is going to give me nightmares.

I'm not kidding.

Jay
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Hey, chill out guys. He just asked a question...
 
Jeff Coatney said:
David, I think the point is to expose as accurately as possible and then let HDRx work its magic. In the example you present, if I'm reading it correctly, an error in either direction becomes uncorrectable. I would assume this to be the case, given the whole point of HDRx is highlight protection. The example of the wall you give should have an acceptable exposure range if the entire shot is correctly exposed-- it being exposed in the context of the overall scene. But can the result be skewed? Perhaps on purpose? I'd say yes. And that just adds to the creative options. The compensation you seek is in your own creative choices, IMO.
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I don't think it is uncorrectable. The final image can't contain values below absolute black or above absolute white (I'm keeping hue/saturation out of this for simplicity's sake but same goes for those values), but the values used for calculations can go beyond those values and with two images, one could calculate those "super values" with the available information… unless I'm missing something.

I think I'm just going to have to wait until I get my hands on a Scarlet to run some tests. I'm really hoping that's sooner than later… very anxious to hear when newbs like me can realistically expect to have one delivered! I've got funds set aside for two and will likely purchase two more at the end of the year.
 
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