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Group Purchase for O'Connor etc.

Finner said:
Sorry but this statement could not be more wrong.

I've operated with the 2575 for over 8 years and it comes no where close to performing the same with a 25-30lb set up as compared to a 70 lb set up. With any camera that will weigh in at 30-37lb's complete I rent the sachtler 7+7 way over the 2575. The 2575 does not work that well with too light a camera, I can not comment on the 2060 as I have never used it but it is based on a similair design platform so I would lean to thinking it would react the same way. Companies will tell you often 0 as the starting weight as it can handle 0 or 1-lbs but no head performs well under weighted. Check out some online reviews on the heads as those will give you much better information.
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Ok, did some testing today and I stand corrected. The 2575, although a wonderful head does not perform as well with a 30lb camera...ideal weight seems to be 60-80lbs.

I would guess based on this that the 2060 is better suited and likely has a sweet spot around 35-65 lbs, although I did not have one to test.
 
Is anyone else thinking about going with the 1030hds instead of the 1030hd? I know you sacrifice tilt range but are there other factors to consider between these two heads?
 
deadmike said:
Is anyone else thinking about going with the 1030hds instead of the 1030hd? I know you sacrifice tilt range but are there other factors to consider between these two heads?
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I'm struggling with the dilemma at this very moment and I'm not sure what the best option is, quite frankly. I honestly feel that the wider tilt range is a big benefit for the kinds of shooting I do, and I can't imagine my RED setup surpassing more than 30 pounds. The body is only 10, and I don't have 20 pounds of extra accessories I'm looking to clamp to it. Yet I keep reading posts of people's configurations that apparently weigh 35lbs. or more, and I'm scratching my head as to where all of this extra weight is coming from. Another advantage to the HD is that it's cheaper, though they're both close enough in price that it's really not a factor. I feel like I'm still leaning toward the HD but keep having doubts...
 
I'm going with the HD.
Aloha
-A
 
Steve,

I'm looking to order:

1. 1030HD Package
2. 25L Carbon Fiber 2-stage Tripod
3. Oconnor hard case and soft case for above.

This also suits me as the dealer (or oconnor) should put assembled head/tripod into soft case and then place soft case into hard case for shipping.
(at least that's what oconnor told me for individual orders).

Now if I'm 110% sure I can do this with the non-connor cases I'm happy to take that path.

Couple of questions,

1. Did the dealer respond on price for the oconnor cases?
2. Should I discuss the soft/hard case choice with the dealer to finalise the order?
3. Any thoughts on lead times?

Again...many thanks,
David
 
The accessories add up. That's why I'm thinking about the HDS. Once you have upper and lower rods, an lcd, a evf, follow focus, mattebox, maybe a lens motor, battery, drive, it's gonna be heavy. With the 18-50mm lens it might be alright, but what if you want to throw a 18-100 cooke zoom on there? It's a tough choice, especially since the prices are so similar.
 
Yeah, I hear you. I feel like I'm leaning toward the HDS now just to be safe. Manny said that this simple setup is running him 40 pounds without the batteries or charger! That's just insane. He barely has any accessories in there and that mattebox is not heavy; I have the very same one. Perhaps my brain is thinking metric or there's something else really obvious that I'm missing here. Did they forget to tell us that the lens weighs 25 pounds?
 
david farland said:
1. 1030HD Package
2. 25L Carbon Fiber 2-stage Tripod
3. Oconnor hard case (or Tuf Pak) and soft case for above
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Firstly, correct me if I wrong but for shipping this setup is 36"x11"x11" and weights 19kg.


Haakon,
I'd hate to go to the 1030HDS if I didn't have to.
40lbs for that setup seems strange, plus battery, drive & evf and your looking at 50lbs! Oconnor says the 1030HD is good for 35lbs.
Something's wrong!

Cheers,
 
David, is your reason for not wanting to go with the HDS just the sacrificed tilt range or is there another reason? Both the HD and the HDS weigh 8.2 lbs according to B&H.
 
That's correct.

Don't want to sacrifice 90º tilt on the HD for 60º on the HDS if I don't need to.

It's a toss up between the inconvenience of never having that extra
30º tilt on the HDS versus the smoothness of your pan/tilts if you're always going heavy (35-45lbs) with the HD.

Cheers,
 
Weight

Weight

Hi,
I've been following the discussiona on heads because I'm also looking at an O'Connor setup. I wanted to share that the camera setup pictured here weighs 29 lbs (no evf or hard drive on there). It's like lugging a dead body around... a very nice dead body mind you...
Best,
Simon.
 
I would like to order one as well.....any chance this can happen again?
 
BTT said:
Hi,
I've been following the discussiona on heads because I'm also looking at an O'Connor setup. I wanted to share that the camera setup pictured here weighs 29 lbs (no evf or hard drive on there). It's like lugging a dead body around... a very nice dead body mind you...
Best,
Simon.
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29lbs?... Sons of Zeus... :blink: :weight_lift: :) Thank You Simon for the hard data!

Hey Steve Tammi... got your pm, will e-mail you sunday.

Have good weekend-- Andrew
 
Steve, I'll PM you with my order on Monday (yeah, last minute, I know). I am fairly convinced that the 2060 is the right choice for me, and safest. Still trying to decide what sticks to get, but leaning toward the Sachtler Cine 150 long.

But my camera won't be here until Mid-December, so I wonder how late your distributor will fulfill the order?
 
BTT said:
Hi,
I've been following the discussiona on heads because I'm also looking at an O'Connor setup. I wanted to share that the camera setup pictured here weighs 29 lbs (no evf or hard drive on there). It's like lugging a dead body around... a very nice dead body mind you...
Best,
Simon.
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Thanks for that info, Simon. It appears that most users are clocking their rigs in around 30 pounds and I just don't feel comfortable maxing out my head. Looks like I am going to bite the tilt range bullet and get the HDS. My setup will probably be somewhat similar to what you have pictured, and I'd like to have some elbow room if I need to add anything. At 29 pounds, you're already riding the uppet limit of what the HD can hold - and it's better to be a little shy of what you can theoretically pile on top anyway. I appreciate some actual numbers, that's very helpful.
 
Häakon said:
Yeah, I hear you. I feel like I'm leaning toward the HDS now just to be safe. Manny said that this simple setup is running him 40 pounds without the batteries or charger! That's just insane. He barely has any accessories in there and that mattebox is not heavy; I have the very same one. Perhaps my brain is thinking metric or there's something else really obvious that I'm missing here. Did they forget to tell us that the lens weighs 25 pounds?
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Haakon, I think that weight is for the kit and the case - and the weight includes one battery (i.e. shooting config) but not the extra 3 batteries + charger - so although we're still looking at a fair weight for the rig, it's not that insane!

That's my reading of the thread that's from, at least...

I'm in the same boat as you and David, though - I'd love to get the 1030HD, but I'm worried about weight and I really don't want to get a tripod that's not going to live up to the job - that's just wasted money. The full 60º tilt of the HDS is a deal-breaker for me (I just like top shots way too much to get head that restricts me on tilt!), so it's a tough choice. I'm really wanting to go O'Connor, but I'm starting to look at the Panther X-15 as well...

Looks like I'm off to a trade show to play with a 35lb or so rig on a few heads in the near future!
 
Hey everyone,

I left the country on short notice last week and won´t be back until next Tuesday evening so there will be a day or two delay before I submit the order. I hope everyone is cool with that.

We have been shooting with a O´Connor 2060 head on some heavy Sachtler sticks this week. The RED has been outfitted with Ultra Primes and Super Speeds with Arri MB20 and FF5. I will try and weigh the rig tomorrow so you can have a hard number.

Best,

Steve
 
Steve Tammi said:
We have been shooting with a O´Connor 2060 head on some heavy Sachtler sticks this week. The RED has been outfitted with Ultra Primes and Super Speeds with Arri MB20 and FF5. I will try and weigh the rig tomorrow so you can have a hard number.
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Steve, let me know how it performs on that combo as well, since that is pretty much what I'm leaning towards.
 
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