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Group Buy: Budget CRI 95 LED Strip Lights

Karl, I think the high power mats are supposed to be 240 watts (24V). I guess that's with all warm and cold color LEDs running.
 
Yes, but looking for wattage or amperage with 24v power supply feeding one or two high power mats. IE: are they 100 watts per mat, 200 watts per mat, etc. based on power consumption of 24v power supply being fed 120 volts. For example, the Skypanel S60 consumes a measured 410 watts @120 volts.
 
Trying to guestimate how bright those hipo mats are.

Mostly I just want to receive the mats and 24v power supplies I ordered, oh, a while ago.

I also want to receive the connector kit I ordered with the original group buy- from 2014. I did receive my controllers and vari-strips this year.
 
Brandon J.F. said:
The next shipment will be in April. Blog/Group will have the latest.
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Hi Brandon,

It has been just shy of 4 months since you've updated this thread. It has been over a month since you updated the Blog on KoraLED. It sounded from the last post on the blog that your new hire was about to contact everyone left in the group buy to finalize shipment. I have heard nothing from that person either.

I hardly think any of us in this group buy could be accused of impatience. But I would like to at least be kept up to date. When am I likely to be fulfilled? I think it's reasonable for me to ask and get at least a rough estimate.
 
My apologies to the community; I hate that we're at this point again.

Brandon is again refusing to offer any refund.

I have worked with him in the past in good faith to try and find a buyer(s) for my orders. Brandon led me to believe throughout this 6 month process of trying to find a buyer, that if they didn't sell, he would offer the refund. I have posted here, as well as other sites/pages that Brandon himself had personally recommended. I gave these sale listings every opportunity to succeed and communicated clearly with anyone interested. Unfortunately, there were no buyers.

When approaching Brandon about the refund, he again bluntly stated "there are no refunds", indicating that while I was operating in good faith to spare Brandon the trouble of issuing a refund - even at the expense to myself of a huge discount on the items for sale - that Brandon himself was not operating in good faith. Essentially, I have been misled by Brandon for more than half a year, despite my efforts to work with him to resolve this issue.

In the end, he is refusing to provide any refund. This is despite being unable to provide any factual or legal basis for this "no return policy", and despite my offers to work with him to establish a repayment plan or schedule that would not impose a financial burden on him.



I hate being here, but posting publicly, in the past, has been the only way to effectively see any movement on this issue, and hold Brandon accountable to his customers.



Again, I just want a refund. I'm willing to setup a payment plan and work with Brandon, and want to know why he's burning his customer base this way.
 
Ted, Mike, Karl, and everybody else who participated in this GB and hasn't completely given up yet: we are creating a database of buyers and their order dates to form a baseline of how orders are being fulfilled and how we can best track progress. This information is vital to empowering the group buyers going forward, and will also benefit Brandon and the integrity of his business. For your own sake and that of the rest of us, please send me a message with your order info to be added to the chart.

In Solidarity,
Sean
 
Nathaniel - please email me at (pcgatflightavdotcom) to arrange for a reasonable purchase of your lights. Brandon is a stand up fellow, doing all of us as much good as he possibly can despite:

••• great health challenges,
••• the already not insignificant challenge of designing and manufacturing ANY product - let alone a HIGH CRI / QUALITY BUDGET LIGHTING SYSTEM (That IS the name of this thread and any cinematographer on the planet should be well acquainted with the Fast vs Great vs Cheap rule ••• which will NEVER be violated) let alone
••• trying to offer upgrades and bonuses and extra products and accessories (he doesn't have to) let alone
••• the massive amount of organization and business infrastructure required to manage all of this (which he didn't have at first and so which cost him insane amounts of personal hours to do manually).

I'm not a mod here but have been around for a little while and have to say I really don't like the increasingly negative tone in this thread and will only say that WE ALL 100% KNEW THE RISKS WHEN WE CHOSE TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS OR ANY GROUP BUY - just as I've known the risk when losing literally hundreds of dollars on Kickstarter campaigns that went under. I was even part of the disaster fiasco of "The Beast" Gimbal group buy that went on for nearly 5 years if i recall and was more measured than regarding much more money than is involved here.

If you want OUT - hit me up and I'll make it my mission to find a buyer for your place in line at a fair price because there is ZERO chance Brandon won't deliver. If you don't want out, please then kindly try and keep your comments positive and remain patient as products are coming and those were the rules we agreed to when backing a group buy in the first place (check RED User Sticky on group buys if unclear).

I do understand feelings of frustrations but honestly with my offer above, you have no cause to feel stuck or wronged. Let's get some perspective and be the best smart reasonable problem solvers we movie / tv guys are known to be thank you I look forward to hearing from you.
 
PC Greene - Thanks for volunteering to help Nathaniel out of his bind when Brandon has been having more difficulties following through. Your supportive community spirit is appreciated.

Along the same lines, I don't think Nathaniel or anyone else has been unduly critical or unreasonable. Just as we'd like to keep things positive toward Brandon, let's please keep them positive toward one another as we struggle along toward receiving these exciting lights. I'd say Nathaniel has clearly demonstrated reason to feel stuck and wronged, and his post helped lead him to a new possible solution. I see no need to shame one another for speaking up about our frustrations or reasonably presenting our needs and experiences. That's what a forum is.

Sean
 
As of today, I have received ZERO requests for any buy outs.

@Sean - I only spoke to Nathan as the first person I'm offering to help and honestly nothing you've said since my previous post changes my opinion about anything. Group Buys have ALWAYS carried known risks - risks we all agree to when getting involved with them in the first place, as that's the price one pays for the benefits Group Buys often provide.

Trying to force accountability like refunds or special "because I'm special / tired of waiting" upgrades and other paradigm shifts that were not part of the original deal are not helpful or even possible, as these buys are usually run by individuals passionate about the subject, without staff or automated systems in place and not driven by profit.

Further, given Brandon's having gone so far and above (with extra accessories, additional / new products, significant upgrades that made our original products even better at little to no cost to us) while doing so without help or business resources that cost him enormous amounts of time and money) not to mention his having significant health issues that frankly would've ended this buy for 99% of other mere mortals, the kind of relentless impatience I've seen here and on Facebook which has frankly bordered on abuse is simply not acceptable IMO - hence my stepping in to help those who want out, the fastest way of getting out.

I hope I'm not disappointing those that would prefer to scream or bully but this is simple - you want out - I'll help you get out. If you don't, hang on for the rest of the ride as I have zero doubt Brandon will continue to deliver - as he already has - as fast as he can because frankly, hollering won't change a thing except to possibly even increase delays as he wastes time time hand holding those unclear on the basic concepts of a Group Buy instead of getting our products made and shipped.

Again - if you want out HIT ME UP per the post above - I'm happy to help get ya sorted. Thanks and have a great weekend all.
 
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PC Greene said:
As of today, I have received ZERO requests for any buy outs.

I hope I'm not disappointing those that would prefer to scream or bully but this is simple - you want out - I'll help you get out. If you don't, hang on for the rest of the ride as I have zero doubt Brandon will continue to deliver - as he already has - as fast as he can because frankly, hollering won't change a thing except to possibly even increase delays as he wastes time time hand holding those unclear on the basic concepts of a Group Buy instead of getting our products made and shipped.

Again - if you want out HIT ME UP per the post above - I'm happy to help get ya sorted.
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Paul,
I'd like a complete buyout of everything ordered and paid for to date. Any items received are in the original packaging, unused. Also looking for a single buyout, not bits and pieces. Everything has been prepaid, starting back in 2014. So far I have received:
4x KoraLED Solaris controllers CTRL_PLUS
2x Korea LED strips, high output variable V-120-G1
4x Variable connector kit VCKIT
1x DIY Power Supply DIYPWR

Not received:
4x Mats, hi-po, vari KM-HPV-24
2x KoraLED Power Units 24V-20A-PWR
2x Power Kit PKIT
2x DIY frames- double DOUBLE_BASE
2x DIY frames- single SINGLE_BASE

shipping has been pre-paid for the frame kits and 2x mats.

If you, or anyone is curious, I can do CC via Paypal.
If you have a buyer, or anyone interested please contact direct: karlkimdp@gmail.com
Also I'll cover shipping to cont. USA is someone wants to buy what is received. Any additional shipping charges from KoraLED are responsibility of buyer.
 
Karl KIm: How did PC Greene's buyout offer work out for you? That sounded like a real generous offer.
 
Sean Solowiej said:
Karl KIm: How did PC Greene's buyout offer work out for you? That sounded like a real generous offer.
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On the Facebook page Brandon announced another round of financing, so I decided to wait it out a little longer. Of course the longer it takes, new products keep marching forward at new price points, and what was exciting years ago is now old news. But a good light is a good light that can be used for years, so hopefully Brandon can deliver.

Sooner than later...
 
Karl: No disrespect, but Brandon has literally been posting that basic message every 2-3 months for five years now. In my most cynical moods, continuing to post some "hope" seems an easy way to keep all of our money tied up with no accountability. Once in a while something does actually ship, and that helps.

PC GREENE: Are you still offering to buy out undelivered orders?
 
Sean Solowiej said:
Karl: No disrespect, but Brandon has literally been posting that basic message every 2-3 months for five years now. In my most cynical moods, continuing to post some "hope" seems an easy way to keep all of our money tied up with no accountability. Once in a while something does actually ship, and that helps.
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Yeah, but in 5 weeks it's gonna be, what, 5 years now? If the mats and 24v power supplies deliver, and they are what they are advertised to be, and are decently bright (a truly relative term), then still a decent deal if you don't take into account the "investment" period. at this point the money is years gone so hoping Brandon will come through...
 
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