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GROUP BUY 2019 – OSEE LCM 215-HDR 1000nits 21.5" Monitor Kit

Note Suwanchote said:
Am also very interested if this works as a grading also!
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Yes, that's my thinking. Any technical details on screen profiling that's been done would be really useful. 100% 709 is great (so long as it is genuinely accurate, shadows too) and P3 would be very very useful.

William: in the photo that is the 21 you're showing next to your iMac?

Do you have Lightspace or some way to profile the screen to show?

thanks
Paul
 
paulcurtis said:
Yes, that's my thinking. Any technical details on screen profiling that's been done would be really useful. 100% 709 is great (so long as it is genuinely accurate, shadows too) and P3 would be very very useful.

William: in the photo that is the 21 you're showing next to your iMac?

Do you have Lightspace or some way to profile the screen to show?

thanks
Paul
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Well said Paul!
Hoping it's workable since then it becomes a dual purpose setup (even if it's not ideal it should be better than my 9 year old chinese monitor haha).
 
paulcurtis said:
William: in the photo that is the 21 you're showing next to your iMac?

Do you have Lightspace or some way to profile the screen to show?

thanks
Paul
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Yes that’s the 215HDR next to my 27” iMac. I don’t have any sort of measurement device - I’m not an expert in that area anyways!
 
paulcurtis said:
Yes, that's my thinking. Any technical details on screen profiling that's been done would be really useful. 100% 709 is great (so long as it is genuinely accurate, shadows too) and P3 would be very very useful
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I have firm confirmation of 100% for rec709!
 
http://vidau.tv/wp-content/uploads/lcm215-hdr.pdf

The manual talks a little more about the screen panel; although it's probably not everything everybody wants to know ;P

Although I've seen a bunch of different specs about the Bits. This is an 8-Bit Panel with 10/12 Bit Processing? What disadvantages is it to have an 8-Bit On-Set Monitor?
 
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Best monitor for the money!

Best monitor for the money!

I can't say enough good things about this monitor!

I have had one now for about 6 months. I have seen it side by side at video village dozens of times with the top offerings from Flanders, Sony, and Panasonic. The color accuracy is on point, no matter which monitor it's sitting next to!

This is the best monitor for the money, hands down. You will not be disappointed if you purchase one. You can light to this monitor with confidence!
 
Thor Wixom said:
I can't say enough good things about this monitor!

I have had one now for about 6 months. I have seen it side by side at video village dozens of times with the top offerings from Flanders, Sony, and Panasonic. The color accuracy is on point, no matter which monitor it's sitting next to!

This is the best monitor for the money, hands down. You will not be disappointed if you purchase one. You can light to this monitor with confidence!
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Good to know. Have you used it as a grading monitor?
 
I had some feedback from OSEE. I'm still asking a few questions.

I think these are what they are - *field* monitors and mostly 709 based. I was pointed towards the 240 as being the more post production version which stands alongside other reference monitors. The 240 has a 10 bit panel and claims a full P3 gamut and their brochure has full profiled specs and charts. Now whether anyone really needs P3 not sure - usually you'd be grading with a projector.

However i don't know about the 215 and it would be great to see a calibrated profile of that. It's the shadows where i think it become difficult for LCDs. Certainly with prosumer LCD displays this is where i see all the issues and that's a pain because if you're shadows are off then you'll grade everything off!

Thor, thanks for the feedback - this is the 215 you are talking about? And i presume all displaying 709?

So P3 then i don't think 215 is what you're looking for. For 709 it could be, even for grading but would need more information.

I don't know whether the 240 could be part of the Group Buy?

EDIT: Some links

https://osee-dig.com/uploads/8/1/3/8/81385122/bcm_monitor.pdf
https://osee-dig.com/uploads/8/1/3/8/81385122/lcm240-e.pdf

The top one compares some field monitors. The big difference is that the 215 is an 8 bit WLED panel where as the 15 and 17 are 10 bit with RGB backlights. I think this is an issue with white points in that the 10 bit RGB are able to achieve changing whitepoints - so P3 and 709 can have quite different starting points. The second PDF is the 240 which *is* designed for grading and close to full P3 calibration.

cheers
Paul
 
Note Suwanchote said:
Good to know. Have you used it as a grading monitor?
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So far, I have only used it as an on set monitor. It has held its color accuracy next to high end monitors on set (like Flanders), across multiple scenes and lighting scenarios.
 
paulcurtis said:
I had some feedback from OSEE. I'm still asking a few questions.

I think these are what they are - *field* monitors and mostly 709 based. I was pointed towards the 240 as being the more post production version which stands alongside other reference monitors. The 240 has a 10 bit panel and claims a full P3 gamut and their brochure has full profiled specs and charts. Now whether anyone really needs P3 not sure - usually you'd be grading with a projector.

However i don't know about the 215 and it would be great to see a calibrated profile of that. It's the shadows where i think it become difficult for LCDs. Certainly with prosumer LCD displays this is where i see all the issues and that's a pain because if you're shadows are off then you'll grade everything off!

Thor, thanks for the feedback - this is the 215 you are talking about? And i presume all displaying 709?

So P3 then i don't think 215 is what you're looking for. For 709 it could be, even for grading but would need more information.

I don't know whether the 240 could be part of the Group Buy?

EDIT: Some links

https://osee-dig.com/uploads/8/1/3/8/81385122/bcm_monitor.pdf
https://osee-dig.com/uploads/8/1/3/8/81385122/lcm240-e.pdf

The top one compares some field monitors. The big difference is that the 215 is an 8 bit WLED panel where as the 15 and 17 are 10 bit with RGB backlights. I think this is an issue with white points in that the 10 bit RGB are able to achieve changing whitepoints - so P3 and 709 can have quite different starting points. The second PDF is the 240 which *is* designed for grading and close to full P3 calibration.

cheers
Paul
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Yes, it's the LCM215-HDR I'm talking about. Color space has been 709 throughout all my shoots.
 
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Some side by sides with the Flanders Scientific monitor via Thor.
 
I'm curious how loud the fan is when in high-bright mode? Are we talking <20dB? Could be a deal breaker if the fan gets too loud, both for on set use and as grading monitor in a studio setting.
 
William Wilkinson said:
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Some side by sides with the Flanders Scientific monitor via Thor.
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As you can see from the pics, the color and contrast are nearly identical. I set up the OSEE LCM-215HDR right next to the Flanders monitor and what you see is essentially right "out of the box". We were in a hurry to get these shots and I didn't have the opportunity to do full or even partial calibrations on either monitor. The only setting I changed on the OSEE was the backlight. The reason is that the OSEE is so much brighter (1000 NIT vs 400 NIT), that I had to dim it so the exposure would be the same on this cell phone snap. These pics are straight from my Samsung Galaxy S9, with zero color correction.

The extra 600 NIT comes in handy in daylight viewing!
 
One additional note...

The the minimal differences you see are easily corrected and are also common between different brands of monitors. The top end Sonys, Panasonics, etc, also have minor differences from brand to brand and even from monitor to monitor.

Once again, this is the best monitor for the money.
 
Ill take one in v mount.
 
I see this next to the Flanders and am very impressed. Not trying to derail anything, just to learn a bit more... how does it compare to the Sumo. There are time when recording is a good thing. Also like the idea of multiple sources when shooting multicam.
 
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