Foolcontrol keeps disconnecting

[George Deierling]

Using Foolcontrol with Weapon/Monstro. It doesn't stay connected for more than 30 seconds. There is a lag of several seconds before a control responds. Takes several attempts to reconnect. So, its just now useable and I hope there is a fix - or some alternative for remote control.
I tried both adhoc Wifi and a Wifi hotspot, it doesn't matter how close the Ipad is to the camera.

Here is the configuration:
Camera: Weapon/Monstro 8k W, Firmware 7.10.1
Ipad 4, OS 12.1.1

 

[Mikael Lubtchansky]

Hi George.

Please email me so we can look into it. Could be interferences from a top plate or other wireless accessories...

Mikael

 

[George Deierling]

Thanks for the quick reply Michael,
it was just the body and the ipad, nothing else wireless involved. The ipad is only 6 inches away. I also tried it on location with a Ubiquiti hotspot and tried to tweak CDL and LUTs but it was very difficult and ureliable. Perhaps a defective wifi module?

 

[Mikael Lubtchansky]

Thanks for the quick reply Michael,
it was just the body and the ipad, nothing else wireless involved. The ipad is only 6 inches away. I also tried it on location with a Ubiquiti hotspot and tried to tweak CDL and LUTs but it was very difficult and ureliable. Perhaps a defective wifi module?

hard to say, most of the time it is interference related but there also could be a specific issue with wifi module or antenna...
does the iPad have a strong protection case around or does it have also cellular connectivity. When you tried both wifi modes, did you notice if the WIFI indicator on camera screen stayed green or changed to yellow briefly when disconnecting the app ?

 

[Björn Benckert]

Its not the iPad case. DSMC2 wifi does simply not work at a producitonreliable level. Possibly they can get it sorted in DSMC3. Cable between osx device and camera is an option.

 

[Antony Newman]

George,

The free version of INKontrol includes graphics that help understand the cause of wireless connection issues.

More details here:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...MSC2-control&p=1767299&viewfull=1#post1767299

What I have found in the latest version of the RED Firmware is:
+) Adhoc wifi is slightly more stable.
+) The connection timeouts (in 3rd Party Apps) needed to be increased slightly.

AJ

Edit : I also created an graphic to help explain what the main Wifi adhoc problem was with the 2017 version of the Camera Firmware:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...MSC2-control&p=1767370&viewfull=1#post1767370

 

[George Deierling]

Michael,
on last shoot Wifi was green with all 3 bars. It always disconnects after about 30 sec.

 

[richiel]

I have had the exact same problem on my Monstro, but I just gave up. I would love to hear the solution so I can use my Fool Control ? anyone?

 

[richiel]

Any luck with your Fool Control problem ?

Any luck with your Fool Control problem ?

George did you have any sucess with geting your Fool Control working on your Monstro ? Please post here if you have any update Thanks

 

[George Deierling]

Teradek is coming out with a wireless control panel. I don't sense a lot of enthusiasm on the part of Red to fix the Wifi issues.

I'll try InKontrol next time, without much hope...

 

[Antony Newman]

George,

I am keen to help RED find cases where there are any ongoing WiFi issues.

The animations and (human readable) diagnostic message in INKontrol explain at what stage the Red Control Protocol is failing, and what the App (INKontrol) was is ‘waiting for’.

If you encounter a RCP link failure - and INKontrol is showing that the camera is now sending NO DATA messages over WiFi, I would recommend using the camera to check ‘RCP CONNECTIONS’. If it is (incorrectly) still showing that an App is connected -> create a Camera Savelog and share that with RED. They will (hopefully) then have enough information about the steps you (and the camera) went through prior to the problem.

AJ

 

[Naim Sutherland]

Hey folks,

Has anyone tried the wifi extender from Wooden with any success?

Are there any alternatives to controlling the camera wirelessly?

Edit: Playing around with INKontrol with some success. The UI is.... interesting. Inspired by SNES jRPGs maybe?

What does pressing the heart button do?

Thank you!

Naim

 

[Antony Newman]

Hi Naim,

I guess I should have created a specific video to explain!

So - at 00:08 in the following video there is a ‘heart’ in the top right of the screen.
https://vimeo.com/268858546

+) When HEART is pressed - you enter FAVOURITES (shortcuts) mode. (heart goes a RED)
In this mode, you can drag any RED menu to a button on the shortcuts panel.
You can also drag an existing button Off if the panel if you don’t want it there
Or rearrange the shortcuts.

+) Press (RED) HEART to disengage. You can now use press any of those favourites

MISC :
- Favorites are Store Per Camera (Local Favourites).
- Press the Bottom right (Globe) Icon to switch to Global favourites (a set of favorite Red menus for all cameras)

Inspiration for the GUI is partly comes from my attempt to minimise apparent complexity through symmetry, icons in place of text, and subtle colour to help the eye ‘hunt’ without the need to read.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magical_Number_Seven,_Plus_or_Minus_Two

The quantity of data displayed in the INKontrol (HeadUpDisplay) GUI is comparable to FC; but (if I have been successful in my goal), the screen should feel less complex.

AJ

 

[Toni Tur]

Hello, I had the problem with my helium that disconnects foolcontrol from my iphone every 30 seconds, in the end I discovered why it happens,
I disconnected the auto calibrate sensor and left a black shading manual, it no longer disconnects anymore!!!

Yeah!!