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First Look - Schneider Xenon FF-Prime Lenses

Jeff Kilgroe said:
Tom, I'd like to steer you toward the Xenons, but then there's the practicality of the whole thing… Especially when you say rental revenue. The CP.2's have a rounded set of focal lengths to choose from that you can buy now. They are a desirable set for many and should be easier to keep rented out vs. the Xenons. Like you say, that Zeiss label makes a big difference in perceived value and rental desire.

My choice set for the CP.2's would be:

15, 21, 35, 50T2.1 macro, 85, 100, or possibly the 135. They are working on an updated 18mm, but no ETA and the current 100mm is a close-focus design, but not macro. Although I would probably opt for the 135 if I had to choose between the two unless that close focus was really important. I'm also making the assumption that you're looking to put together a typical 6 lens set.
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I'm really grappling with this, Jeff…it is a tough decision for me. I have a limited budget and want to get something that I'll be happy with for a long time and will not turn out to be a financial mistake. Like I said, for personal consumption only it would almost certainly be the Xenons…especially because I think that rentability is hindered because they are only a 3 lens set right now. But as you say, the CP.2s have a much broader range of choices and may be more rentable. And yes, I am looking at buying a 5-6 lens set.
 
I think you need to give the Schneider Xenons a year in the wild before it can gain any ground in the rental market with them. CP.2 will pay them selfs back faster with the market your targeting. Just because that market considers the cp2 as the best glass for their camera mount. Even though the Xenon is much better glass all way around.
 
Anyone heard about the case that was supposed to come with these lenses?
 
I have the soft cases that came with mine. But I use the custom 6 lens case from dulcos. My friend just got his a few weeks ago that came in a cardboard case.
 
I just got my Duclos case in the mail today. It's a Storm iM2620. I've seen what I think was the 5 lens case from Schneider, it is quite a bit smaller and the lenses lay on their sides. Looked nice if you're not planning on the 18mm eventually. If you're planning on the 18mm, I'd just order this case from Duclos.

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I was supposed to get a case from Schneider since I preordered my set...Kyle, you said you've seen the 5 lens case? Maybe I'll just keep holding out as I'd hate to spend extra money on one...
 
Those are very nice cases! I assume that there is some extra padding pieces that come included for those that have EF versions. I've been talking with the guys at HRC, and I'm hoping that sooner rather than later, the cases promised to those who pre-ordered will be here...I'd hate to put down an extra $400 for a case when Schneider finally gets around to releasing their version...and I hope its a five lens hole case!

Thanks for the pics Kyle and Roger!
 
Bob Gundu said:
Thats the case from Film Tools:

http://www.filmtools.com/pelican-1550-schneider-foam-insert-xenon.html

I don't think Schneider is offering a case anymore.
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Actually it's not.

The case in the picture is the Hot Rod Cameras case. Very similar- but slightly smaller, lighter, more scratch resistant, best in class latch system and warranty- Nanuk 930.

We also have an AirCell shoulder strap option ($30), which is a major plus if you find yourself in airports with lenses.

Our case is more expensive, but we'll also price match the Filmtools case, for those who ask nicely ;-)
 
BTW, spoke with Schneider this week. Those lucky enough to score the free case deal, should be hearing from their dealers soon as supposedly the cases have "shipped from the factory."

I know the case is coming from overseas, and I don't know if it was shipped by pony express, or horse drawn cart, but my guess is we'll see it at NAB.

They are committed to making good on the original promise. I haven't seen the Schneider case, but it has been confirmed by the factory that it will hold 4-lens, and for those who didn't pre-order with a dealer early, it will have a retail price of $770.

Hope that helps.
 
Matt Gottshalk said:
It'd be nice to see a 6-lens case to take the whole set.

ETA, NVM, I found this one:

http://www.filmtools.com/storm-im2620-6-lens-case-for-schneider-xenon-ff-prime.html

Would still prefer one that has them laying on their side like the 5 lens case.
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That six lens case is the one that I have. Duclos Lens offered it, at the time I ordered the first three lens set. Hopefully the final dimensions won't change, for the remaining three lenses, as the photos posted today seem to confirm.

Thank you very much

Fury
 
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