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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon....

Strangely enough I was thinking "Dragons shot on Dragons"... I am fascinated by the creatures and wanted to go myself...

Ron Lagerlof said:
Ok, Jarred so let's go Dragons head-to-head. Komodo Dragons, that is. I hope to have mine by November when I'll be in Komodo.

Dragon v. Dragon
Dragon does Dragon
Dragon on Dragon

I see a new ad campaign - or at least a thread... he he he.

Bring it...
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Jarred Land said:
Don't worry we covered that. The Dragon sensor board actually has a small heater on it.. This not only helps in cold situations, but gets the sensor up to temperature from rest quicker, and is much better at keeping that temperature stable in different environments.
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Wow, this is some major league science going on, this sounds more like a space craft sensor from Nasa then a camera sensor (in some ways eclipsing current Nasa sensors). I love it how you guys flip the industry on it's head!
 
What is the timeframe for purchasing upgrades. with Capital cycles it would be great to be able to push this to next year.
 
Jon Chema said:
Amazing news. This may be a stupid question and may have already been answered some time ago... will there be a Dragon-X after the M bodies are produced?

J
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I'm pretty sure its already priced out on Red.com...If not I def remember hearing there was one and it cost less...
 
Jarred, just a quick question. With the old Rocket while using Dragon, do we still get similar times to encode to 4K Prores or 1080p we get with MX? I'm not asking about Playback r3d performance, I'm sure this will take a hit in 6K due to obvious reasons, just conversion/encoding performance in redcine X. I know red pushes for all raw workflow but on tight schedules on a mobile platform this is what I have been doing with the current MX with great results.
 
Sergio Perez said:
Jarred, I know this is one of those questions, but if i order the Dragon now, do you think it will be ready for the first week of November? 60th Macau Grand Prix starts 5th of November (practice)...
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Should have our Dragon in Macau by then - Lim
 
Ron Lagerlof said:
Ok, Jarred so let's go Dragons head-to-head. Komodo Dragons, that is. I hope to have mine by November when I'll be in Komodo.

Dragon v. Dragon
Dragon does Dragon
Dragon on Dragon

I see a new ad campaign - or at least a thread... he he he.

Bring it...
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Congrats! A "Dragon" Scarlet or Epic are in my future in 2014. Can't wait (If I'm lucky Santa leaves one under my tree).

Congrats all around. This is an "epic" achievement.
 
Sergio Perez said:
Jarred, just a quick question. With the old Rocket while using Dragon, do we still get similar times to encode to 4K Prores or 1080p we get with MX? I'm not asking about Playback r3d performance, I'm sure this will take a hit in 6K due to obvious reasons, just conversion/encoding performance in redcine X. I know red pushes for all raw workflow but on tight schedules on a mobile platform this is what I have been doing with the current MX with great results.
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so you mean encode from 6k to 4k prores? or 1080p? it wont be as fast as MX footage encoded to the same resolution on the older Rocket. We have some things that will help things along coming, and leverage your GPU, but you can't expect the same render times.

Of course if your shooting 5k or 4k cropped on the Dragon, and then going to 4k or 1080p, then that is a different story.
 
6K aside, the one thing I can safely say from some tests shot when the sun was out is that I can certainly "feel" the greater captured dynamic range. And boy did that feel good.
 
Phil Holland said:
6K aside, the one thing I can safely say from some tests shot when the sun was out is that I can certainly "feel" the greater captured dynamic range. And boy did that feel good.
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Was great stomping around the desert with you tonight Phil.. glad to finally see you in action.
 
Jarred Land said:
Was great stomping around the desert with you tonight Phil.. glad to finally see you in action.
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a bit like a mad scientist? ;) hahaha

I picture Phil wearing a lab coat.
 
Jarred Land said:
Was great stomping around the desert with you tonight Phil.. glad to finally see you in action.
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Dude. The pleasure was mine. A nice surprise for sure. Don't think I'll forget today anytime soon!
 
Jarred Land said:
so you mean encode from 6k to 4k prores? or 1080p? it wont be as fast as MX footage encoded to the same resolution on the older Rocket. We have some things that will help things along coming, and leverage your GPU, but you can't expect the same render times.

Of course if your shooting 5k or 4k cropped on the Dragon, and then going to 4k or 1080p, then that is a different story.
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Exactly. My last year workflow for these racing videos (done for the prize giving showing in the same day the event ended-quick reference https://vimeo.com/53943018) worked wonderfully with the MX, Rocket, 1080p prores 4:2:2 HQ to mix and match different format cameras we used for the event. Convert times for shots where faster than realtime on a Macbook Pro Retina with Rocket. And we kept wonderful masters in 5K (3K and 2K for the slow motion shots to use in this year's tv commercials)

Basically what you mean is that for similar results in speed with 6K I need the Rocket X, right? This is important info , thanks, Jarred. its essential I could keep a similar speed workflow. I would love to have this year's coverage in 6K but on my side workflow is really important for this "deadline". Budget wise If I am to get the Dragon and X bundle I need to wait a bit more. I will definitely upgrade but its a bit of a critical operation and I simply cannot fail, so either I find a fine reduser here to rent with rocket X or will go solo MX for this year. Damn, its the 60th anniversary. Historical moment. It might be my only chance on working on such a representative date of the event...Decisions, decisions! (If money wasn't a factor!)
 
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