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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon....

cant wait to get it in my hands and the hands of my clients...

thank you for all your hard work.
 
Jarred Land said:
Is done.

Dragon will likely win the award for the most suitable name ever given to a product. Its been quite the beast to tame, with quite a few fires started along the way.

Dragon ( the sensor ) was actually done before NAB... when you all saw cameras being put together. Sorting out the existing camera infrastructure so the sensor and the ASIC could be an upgrade has been the consuming part.

But we are there. Final parts are now being sent off to manufacturing and customer upgrades will begin the first week of September.


It's a good time to share with you a few things we have learned along the way.


The increased latitude of the Dragon isn't just in the bottom. The increase is also at the top.

So you get the same 16+ stops of latitude at 200 asa as you do at 2000 with the Dragon. No latitude penalty when you lower ASA. Which means when you are shooting outside, less ND filters. Less IR issues, better images.

Because the Dragon also has lower bottom end noise than the MX, You can still push the camera to where you want it.. and you will still get cleaner images than you did on Epic MX at any comparable ASA.

The Dragon also wants to be warmer than not ( go figure ) . Good thing, as the Epic itself doesn't have a problem generating heat. A match made in heaven.

The Dragon Firmware will automatically bring the sensor temp up... which can mean a lower fan speed (depending on your circumstances).

Dragon Firmware is actually ahead of the Epic MX firmware.. rock solid. Since we have had so much time with the Dragon... it is probably the most tested build we have ever had.

Graeme has also had the time to really dig deep into the color science. He will say he is never done.. but there are alot of color improvements he has made that are worth the upgrade all by themselves.

6K is incredible. I know the rest of the world has just (finally) landed at 4K... but 6k motion and the stills pulled from Dragon are remarkable. O the stills. And talk about oversampling for 4k motion delivery. It's hard to go back.

Rocket-X is going to be your Dragon's new best friend. Seriously. It should be shipping at the time the upgrades begin.

Expect to see images start trickling out over the next few weeks.

It's time to finally let the Dragon out of the cage.
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Jarred, I know this is one of those questions, but if i order the Dragon now, do you think it will be ready for the first week of November? 60th Macau Grand Prix starts 5th of November (practice)...
 
Sergio,

If not, I will fly over with mine.
 
Jarred Land said:
Exactly. Ive been shooting with the Dragon for awhile now.. and i've noticed I am much less concerned where that number is. Push it when I need to, pull it when the sun comes out. Much more freedom on hitting the right stop on the lens.
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Whelp, I'd say that's another plus on the board for just how REDCODE works during capture and in post. That's going to be some meaty material. For color grading nuts like me, I'm pretty damn excited about that range and the new color science.

Which really makes me think about "Alchemy" in REDCINE-X Pro at the moment.

Many a thought. Can't wait to test Dragon out.

(p.s. my birthday is on the 23rd! hint hint)
 
Sergio Perez said:
Jarred, I know this is one of those questions, but if i order the Dragon now, do you think it will be ready for the first week of November? 60th Macau Grand Prix starts 5th of November (practice)...
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Hard to say.. it all depends on how fast people send in their cameras, etc.
 
Brandon J.F. said:
Awesome!

How well does MX and Dragon footage cut together?
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Great.. specially if you shoot both at the same resolution, a moderate ASA and a scene that has contrast that is contained inside the MX's latitude. You will notice a difference in noise when you really push both of them though.
 
Can we please have at least a side by side photo taken from the Dragon and compared to the Epic of a human face in low light so we can see the difference sometime soon?
 
Jarred, congratulations on reaching this milestone. The spirit at RED from the very beginning has been to arm the masses with camera technology that exceeds the status quo at relatively affordable prices. Some have termed this disruptive, and it certainly has been. It has completely changed how the high end camera companies do business. My hope with Dragon is that RED achieves a new level of respectability throughout the industry so that RED cameras are chosen for their ability to achieve the vision of a project rather than being based on some other less than relevant means. The camera specs are impressive. The price point is very reasonable. If the images deliver, which it sounds like they will based on how much care has gone into getting this ready, then I believe we are at a point in RED's history where the industry needs to welcome this camera with open arms and let it compete on it's own merits. Many of you know what I am referring to by these statements.

As a community, the greatest support and endorsement you can give to RED is to be extremely professional with your posts here on REDUSER and other forums. I like to point to the posts made by guys like Phil Holland that present very thoughtful, well illustrated examples of the topics he discusses. To me, those threads are gold and if I was an outsider looking in I'd be impressed by that. For those who are owner/operators or DPs/directors who like shooting RED, taking the level of professionalism up a notch will greatly help your cause out in the market. Building the brand on it's merits will do wonders in advancing it's market share.

I am anxious to see Dragon in action and I look forward to seeing fellow Redusers post their tests and first projects shot with the new sensor.
 
Great news Jarred. Thanks for the timeline re potential delivery. Gives me a chance to manage my cash flow a little :-)
 
Same latitude at 200 or 2000 ASA is a huge improvement ! Having to shoot outside in bright daylight at ISO 2000 would have been an ND nightmare ;)
How low can we go ? 200, or even lower ?
 
Spot on!


Steve Sherrick said:
Jarred, congratulations on reaching this milestone. The spirit at RED from the very beginning has been to arm the masses with camera technology that exceeds the status quo at relatively affordable prices. Some have termed this disruptive, and it certainly has been. It has completely changed how the high end camera companies do business. My hope with Dragon is that RED achieves a new level of respectability throughout the industry so that RED cameras are chosen for their ability to achieve the vision of a project rather than being based on some other less than relevant means. The camera specs are impressive. The price point is very reasonable. If the images deliver, which it sounds like they will based on how much care has gone into getting this ready, then I believe we are at a point in RED's history where the industry needs to welcome this camera with open arms and let it compete on it's own merits. Many of you know what I am referring to by these statements.

As a community, the greatest support and endorsement you can give to RED is to be extremely professional with your posts here on REDUSER and other forums. I like to point to the posts made by guys like Phil Holland that present very thoughtful, well illustrated examples of the topics he discusses. To me, those threads are gold and if I was an outsider looking in I'd be impressed by that. For those who are owner/operators or DPs/directors who like shooting RED, taking the level of professionalism up a notch will greatly help your cause out in the market. Building the brand on it's merits will do wonders in advancing it's market share.

I am anxious to see Dragon in action and I look forward to seeing fellow Redusers post their tests and first projects shot with the new sensor.
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