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Dragon Lens Coverage Information

steve green said:
Phil,
I'm looking to buy a good hand held zoom and naturally the 15-40 Optimo is at the top of the list. But what do you know about the Zeiss 15.5-45? 6K HD coverage? Optics? Weight for possible Movi use? Love to hear your expert thoughts…..
Thanks as always, love your posts.
Steve
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I've got very little experience with the Zeiss LWZ.2 15.5-45mm T2.6, but once I get my Dragon or the next time I have one for a prolonged length of time I can add it to the list to check. Zeiss has a new CZ 15-30 mm T2.9 for nearly the same price coming out and that will cover 6K Full no problem. Although it's 1.3 lbs heavier. If I had to choose between the two today I'd get the CZ when it's released personally.

Sony primes are on that list as well as a whole lot of zooms, like something around 20 of them. Leica Summicron-C should happen pretty soon. Real curious to put the Canon zooms up on Dragon.
 
I should add I try to space out my time when I bug Red to do tests. They have a great deal on their plate and I have a feeling the next few weeks are going to be real busy with certain items and holidays approaching.

But yes, here's a short list of what's coming up:

Leica Summicron-C
Xenon FF-Primes
Cooke Mini S4/i
Cooke 5/i
Sony Cine Alta
Elite Optics

And about 20 zoom lenses.
 
Phil Holland said:
I've got very little experience with the Zeiss LWZ.2 15.5-45mm T2.6, but once I get my Dragon or the next time I have one for a prolonged length of time I can add it to the list to check. Zeiss has a new CZ 15-30 mm T2.9 for nearly the same price coming out and that will cover 6K Full no problem. Although it's 1.3 lbs heavier. If I had to choose between the two today I'd get the CZ when it's released personally.

Sony primes are on that list as well as a whole lot of zooms, like something around 20 of them. Leica Summicron-C should happen pretty soon. Real curious to put the Canon zooms up on Dragon.
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Does the 15-40 Optimo cover 6K HD?
 
Hi Steve

The 15-40 covers 6K from 17mm, 5-5K across the full range

Richard Mills - ONSIGHT Cameras and Post, London
 
Phil Holland said:
I should add I try to space out my time when I bug Red to do tests. They have a great deal on their plate and I have a feeling the next few weeks are going to be real busy with certain items and holidays approaching.

But yes, here's a short list of what's coming up:

Leica Summicron-C
Xenon FF-Primes
Cooke Mini S4/i
Cooke 5/i
Sony Cine Alta
Elite Optics

And about 20 zoom lenses.
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I might be able to help with the Summicron-C and the Xenons (this last ones thanks to you)... ;)
 
Hi Phil!
Any anamorphic lenses up for test? Sorry if already posted. I have not gone through the entire thread... :(
 
Per von Koch said:
Hi Phil!
Any anamorphic lenses up for test? Sorry if already posted. I have not gone through the entire thread... :(
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Anamorphic lenses work "as intended" with the anamorphic modes on Dragon. Interesting to note, anamorphic is now available in all of the formats if you'd like to get creative or simply use the standard 1.22:1 aspect ratio with the 2X squeeze.

The first shoot Christopher Probst did back in June with Dragon utilized Kowa Anamophic lenses and it looked great. I haven't tested anything anamorphic since then, but there won't be coverage issues with them. In fact they work more "proper" due to the additional sensor height even.
 
Added: Leica Summicron-C Coverage.

Preliminary notes: They all cover 6K FF on Dragon. More details soon.




Personal Note: Somehow in 2013 I used and looked at every cinema prime lens available during this calendar year and some that won't be out for some time. Didn't really set out to do this, but it's a fascinating thing for me personally. A bunch of zooms too, but not all of them. Not yet. Just crazy to look back at it. Favorites, nightmares, and workhorses. Lots and lots of notes.
 
Did they start shipping the Summicron Cs?

Phil Holland said:
I should add I try to space out my time when I bug Red to do tests. They have a great deal on their plate and I have a feeling the next few weeks are going to be real busy with certain items and holidays approaching.

But yes, here's a short list of what's coming up:

Leica Summicron-C
Xenon FF-Primes
Cooke Mini S4/i
Cooke 5/i
Sony Cine Alta
Elite Optics

And about 20 zoom lenses.
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Those look beautiful. Perfect size. Where did this set come from?

Phil Holland said:
Added: Leica Summicron-C Coverage.

Preliminary notes: They all cover 6K FF on Dragon. More details soon.




Personal Note: Somehow in 2013 I used and looked at every cinema prime lens available during this calendar year and some that won't be out for some time. Didn't really set out to do this, but it's a fascinating thing for me personally. A bunch of zooms too, but not all of them. Not yet. Just crazy to look back at it. Favorites, nightmares, and workhorses. Lots and lots of notes.
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Ketch,

Have you tested the Summicron C Primes?

KETCH ROSSi said:
I might be able to help with the Summicron-C and the Xenons (this last ones thanks to you)... ;)
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Phil Holland said:
Added: Leica Summicron-C Coverage.

Preliminary notes: They all cover 6K FF on Dragon. More details soon.
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And that is nice to hear of course... ;)


Will Keir said:
Did they start shipping the Summicron Cs?
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If they didn't they are about to go out, as few sets are to go out this month, and Leica did get it together with the Summicron's as even if you were to order a set now thru Seth at Leica LA store, they could ship as early as first Quarter 2014!!

Also the additional Focal are to become available in the first half of 2014, and that is truly amazing to have a complete set from 18mm to 135mm by middle of next year, great job on this one Leica, and the best part is that you can order direct, and you don't have to go thru Band Pro any more, and that is truly refreshing good news, giving the very POOR job Band Pro did with the Summilux pre-orders!!
 
I'm on that preorder list and have heard nothing. I will be speaking with Band Pro tomorrow.

Who is the rep in LA to go direct through? Would you pass their info please?

KETCH ROSSi said:
best part is that you can order direct, and you don't have to go thru Band Pro any more, and that is truly refreshing good news, giving the very POOR job Band Pro did with the Summilux pre-orders!!
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$100,800 is the price from bandpro. Seemed like these were going to be half the price of Summilux C primes at one point? Any idea how many in the set and focal lengths?

Same as the set you tested? I see you say ALL lenses just not quite sure if it's 5-6 or 8?
 
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Will Keir said:
I'm on that preorder list and have heard nothing. I will be speaking with Band Pro tomorrow.

Who is the rep in LA to go direct through? Would you pass their info please?
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As I said Will, I'll never do busies with Band Pro again so I have no idea what is going on at their side... Just go talk to Seth Emmons at the LA Leica Store at 8783 Beverly BLVD., behind the Beverly Center... And tell him I said hi... ;)

Oh and of course they give you a blown up price, as the first set with 18, 25, 35, 50, 75 & 100mm is priced by Leica at $97,500
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
As I said Will, I'll never do busies with Band Pro again so I have no idea what is going on at their side... Just go talk to Seth Emmons at the LA Leica Store at 8783 Beverly BLVD., behind the Beverly Center... And tell him I said hi... ;)

Oh and of course they give you a blown up price, as the first set with 18, 25, 35, 50, 75 & 100mm is priced by Leica at $97,500
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Ketch what's the front diameter of these lenses? 80mm? They look pretty small!
 
Saurabh Pandey said:
Hey Phil,

Thank you for this info, Great Job!
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Cheers Saurabh. I'll have the rest of the coverage likely before the year is out.


Nick Morrison said:
Ketch what's the front diameter of these lenses? 80mm? They look pretty small!
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Not Ketch, but I have an answer and used these recently. The Leica Summicron-C primes are 95mm front diameter. Same as the Leica Summilux-C primes. That's pretty much where a lot of the similarity between the two sets lands. Everything else is pretty different. Iris, glass, character, speed, etc.

The only one that's bigger than 95mm between the two sets is the 135mm Summilux-C because she's a massive piece of glass.

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I don't know if this was mentioned earlier. I know that the RPP 25mm doesn't cover 6K FF, but will it cover 6K WS?
 
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