DR ..a good discussion!!

Todd S · Jun 18, 2018

I just realized there was a Scarlet-W Xyla in the OP. Sorry!

Thanks so much for including this. Having this XYLA to push and pull around in Resolve has been so useful.

Based in my grades so far with this xyla and actual footage, I can say that iso 320 is the quietest starting point.
DEB off, no NR, and Contrast/Pivot/Offset to taste got me the most dynamic range out of this camera.
Resolve's Lum vs Sat curve was much more accurate than DEB to my scope and eyes, at least in the very lowest part of the range.

Any other suggestions?

Also why is the Arri so defined on the XYLA? Built in NR?

Björn Benckert · Jun 18, 2018

Mike P. said:
Haven't read this thread so forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse, but I found Cioni's/Panavision's perspective on the DR of Montro to be reasonable (and something I think most of us have expected for quite some time).

Basically says, 'the sensor may see ~20stops, but we have found "Sweet 16" to be the most useable; any more than that and you're trying to pull stops out of the weeds [noise]...'

Maybe with Gemini, because it's so clean, the DR seems more apparent/easy to play with, but I'm pretty sure from Dragon onwards we've been dealing with ~15-16 useable stops (with the VV sensors having an edge because the downscale and/or pixel pitch makes noise less noticeable/destructive).

There is more than downscale and pixel pitch that differentiates monstro from dragon. Monstro is way cleaner even on a pixel by pixel comparision. Which makes the "weeds" less pronounced and the usable DR much greater. Monstro got crystal clean blacks where dragon does not hold up.

rand thompson · Jun 18, 2018

RED Monstro Test - XEEN Lens vs Canon Lens

By Hurlbut Visuals

She must have been very thirsty!

rand thompson · Jun 18, 2018

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Shot with GL Leica R superspeeds on an 8K Monstro

rand thompson · Jun 18, 2018

Sony Venice

Video starts at 0:51 point

rand thompson · Jun 18, 2018

Sony Raw Viewer 3.0

Wish Redcine-X had a Vectorscope like this also with the ability to "Dock" and "UnDock" Windows.

rand thompson · Jun 18, 2018

Sony Venice Still Samples.

http://www.xdcam-user.com/tag/sample/

Click on the

"Click here to download these Venice Samples" link at the bottom of the page

Sony Raw Viewer 3.0

Click on the

"Sony’s raw viewer software" link at bottom of page

Just Click on the top "Telecharger" next to the "Raw Viewer(RWV-10)Windows Version 3.0 58.2mb" drop down

https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/fr/download/rawviewer

rand thompson · Jun 19, 2018

Los Angeles" &#55357;&#56628; &#55356;&#57253; Shot On Red™ Weapon Monstro 8K Vista Vision

rand thompson · Jun 19, 2018

Japan in 8K

Says it used Red Weapon 8k, don't know if it was Helium or Monstro. It says it was shot across Japan between 2017 and 2018.

rand thompson · Jun 19, 2018

Yokohama Night Aerial in 8K

Camera: RED Weapon 8K
Resolution: 7680x4320
Lens: Zeiss Milvus 25mm F1.4

rand thompson · Jun 19, 2018

Shiraito Falls in 8K /8K 白糸の滝

Shot on RED Weapon 8K ranging from 8K 24fps to 60fps at Shiraito Falls, Shizuoka Japan. Shiraito Falls are designated as a part of the Mt. Fuji World Heritage Site. Some footages are upscaled from 6K 100fps to 8K.