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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DaVinci

Indeed, good report. Seems like it would make more sense for them to do a PC version though, given the slot limitations of Mac Pros and graphics limitations of OSX...
 
fiendish said:
Indeed, good report. Seems like it would make more sense for them to do a PC version though, given the slot limitations of Mac Pros and graphics limitations of OSX...
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Indeed !
 
fiendish said:
Indeed, good report. Seems like it would make more sense for them to do a PC version though, given the slot limitations of Mac Pros and graphics limitations of OSX...
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If you check out the DaVinci manual, some of the screen captures are Windows. So perhaps a Window release is imminent.
 
jake blackstone said:
All is left is "best in class" in skill and ability to video and sound edit and color grade and you all set. Do I hear "best in class" compositing skill? They don't sell that at cutdown rate too now, do they?:-)
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No. And they don't sell it for a million bucks either. You got it or you don't. At least this way, if you got it, you can afford the tools.
 
M Most said:
I think what's scarier is the fact that Blackmagic has never had any Linux products and has never shown any inclination to support the Linux OS. They have always been a Mac-centric, Windows-second company. I think the jury is still very much out as to whether the Linux product is a long term commitment, or an attempt to test the viability of that market for what has now become a "low end" - at least in terms of price - product, while still trying to retain the high end client base that already has DaVinci products.
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They've actually been working on Linux in-house for years now. They're just not a particularly open-source kinda company. When I was there most of their developers we're Linux nuts working on Windows solutions. Bottom line is Grant will go where there are sales to make and freelancers to support (seriously). BMD don't have a history of becoming bored with product lines.
 
Andrae Palmer said:
Tim,

I can see how this would bum you out. You are invested in a Quantel Pablo and I'm sure you can only imagine the writing on the wall. I would be bummed out too if I had a Scratch, Pablo or Baselight (new 95k system released at NAB) system...
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Well, I'm not invested in anything and I feel exactly the same way that Tim does.
 
M Most said:
Well, I'm not invested in anything and I feel exactly the same way that Tim does.
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Perhaps you are not invested... but you most definitely are heavily associated with the old guard. Pushing Scratch in India, etc. I can also see why your sentiments are nostalgic of the old guard.
 
keep in mind, we still have to see how well it performs in the real world with real life situations, hiccups, and taking in footage day in and day out. Ive had some experience with decklink hd cards over a year ago, and just doing simple pro ress timelines to HDCAM tape was always more of a pain than it should have been. It would work flawlessy one minute, and next tape i'd be spending 20 minutes trying to figure why it isn't.

and i also encountered a lot of glitches with the up and cross conversions too, so maybe the company performs better now, or maybe the new da vinci is gonna be glitchy as all hell and nobody is gonna touch it with a 50 ft pole.

stability and reliability cannot be sacrificed for price alone, especially in such a high stakes broadcast/film production environment. I don't like blackmagic designs, but that's just me.
 
also just to ad to that, i had a friend who worked at a finishing house in NYC, a pretty big one too but i won't name them. they were all da vinci 2k's for the longest time but ended up switching to baselights simply because the da vinci's weren't very stable and the performance was glitchy.

so maybe that's another factor on the huge price drop, trying to bring back clients that want more cost effectiveness....
 
Not as revolutionary as the Davinci Resolve new price point... but still showing the trending direction of the industry:

FilmLight launches low entry price point of 95k for Baselight at NAB 2010
http://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/news_events/news/article/20100410_newbaselight

Baselight includes a GPU renderer, Blackboard control surface, Baselight Kompressor and 12TB formatted RAID 5 storage as standard.

The system is fully upgradeable through to the top of the range 8 x GPU Baselight EIGHT and benefits from FilmLight’s comprehensive range of global support, maintenance, training and specialist consultancy services.

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Too bad it's only for broadcast.
 
Actually we have being doing 4.5K on our BL1.
 
I bought a 130K$ Smoke Advanced Linux about two years ago. I can tell you it was very difficult to accept a 20K$ machine on mac from autodesk. The smoke advanced is a wonderfull machine, far from the mac version on many points (batch and most of all stability). Anyway, it's really hard for everyday's HD clients to understand the differences beetween the two systems. Except on very high-end productions, clients are looking for good prices. And high end movie are a small part of the market.
I was looking for a high-end solution for grading and I'm really, really happy to not have bought a luster one month ago. Black Magic price range for Davinci is a real earthquake on the market. It's obvious this announcement is going to change many things, like CS5 and cuda. Access to GPU was a thing for big systems till now. Luster is running on a single GPU for grading and if Black Magic makes a good job on the mac version, Resolve will be enough for lot of uses, from HD to 2K. In this amazing market, I will not invest now in a 50 or 90K$ solution. All manufacturers are going to react (if they can). Black Magic is selling hardware, lot of hardware. Resolve will be a thing for selling more cards. Companies like Iridas, Assimilate, Autodesk are living with software. This annoucement is a turning point to my point of view, and I'm managing a post-house, so I have a small idea of everyday market. Lot of clients wants the beautiful grading suite, but they don't want to pay 4000$ a day anymore. In 2 or 3 months, freelance colorists will come into the market with an acceptable solution running on Mac : macpro+resolve+decklink+cinetal or Eizo or barco : 16K$ investment enough to cover HD TV films, documentaries and 2K Features. When I bought a Session 8 Digidesign about 15 years ago, nobody thought this machine would be on every studio's in the world. You can now edit and mix a TV film on a 20K$ protools HD with no problems and nobody is complaining. Grading will be the same very soon :)
 
I feel honored to be in this transition stage where pro gear prices are dropping like a rock. A 5K camera package for under $15 grand minus lenses. A pro color correction program for a grand, a control surface for $1500, exciting times.
 
Frank Cueto said:
Actually we have being doing 4.5K on our BL1.
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Wow! I thought the software would have been handicapped at these price points. Great to hear its fully functional for 4k output.
 
lionel2p said:
I bought a 130K$ Smoke Advanced Linux about two years ago. I can tell you it was very difficult to accept a 20K$ machine on mac from autodesk. The smoke advanced is a wonderfull machine, far from the mac version on many points (batch and most of all stability). Anyway, it's really hard for everyday's HD clients to understand the differences beetween the two systems.
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I was at a few Smoke demo's... to this day I don't understand the concept of Batch. So yes I can see why clients would have a hard time grasping it. I don't even think the people demoing the software had a good concept of batch... it was very hard for them to explain what it does. This is after I kept asking persistently for a further explanation.

I agree with your sentiments... its hard to put 50-90k on the line now. things are changing way too rapidly. Heck at this pace we'll soon have a control panel like a neo, blackboard or Davinci Resolve for around 10k. Who knows what next years NAB will bring. It seems color grading is going the way of ProTools HD.

Heck at the pace REDCine-X is progressing we may have a free top of the line realtime GPU based color grading software by next year. :-)
 
First Smoke on Mac and now this.

I won't be able to use it for reality TV due to the fast turnaround required but for doc's and features this is just wicked.

Colour me STOKED! :drool5::drool5::drool5::drool5:
 
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