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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DaVinci

Decklink extreme 3d is 1/3 the price of a kona 3 card
 
If the Mac|Resolve products works as anticipated, it should give BlackMagic a nice uptick in hardware related sales.
 
Ha ha, I'm all for Black Magic. There is just something about companies that are honest enough to publish the price of their products. The believe in what they sell. From the specs of the card, other companies would sell it for $10,000.
 
MichaelHalsell said:
Looks like there will no technical reason for poorly graded footage anymore, other than the human error.
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Hasn't that been the case already? There's no voodoo in the high end grading suites really, you can do all the same stuff with cheap software. The only thing that's different is the time it takes.
 
Eki Halkka said:
Hasn't that been the case already? There's no voodoo in the high end grading suites really, you can do all the same stuff with cheap software. The only thing that's different is the time it takes.
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Exactly:iagree:
The way it looks, now anyone can be a colorist and anyone can produce top notch work, it just may take a bit longer...
Just the other day my podiatrist mentioned, that in his spare time on weekends, he is a DP, camera operator, DIT, editor, VFX artist and, of coarse, a colorist. Yep, nowadays, with all the new cameras, software and hardware, anyone can do all this, with no or minimal training and with no regard to the talent or the experience.
Who needs the magic, when soon anyone with $1k software will immediately become an excellent, but may be somewhat slow, colorist.:tongue_smilie:
 
My take is a little different. I don't think anyone can be a colorist just as not everyone can be a DOP, or director, or VFX artist, or stunt guy. Each has their own skill set. For example; I am personally low on the colorist skill set scale compared to many but maybe higher on workflow and management.
The great thing today is BMD is offering the tools for those with the right skill set, so the 'cost of goods' is not the limiting factor it has previously been. If you have the skill set to be the best colorist in the world, or your street, you can now afford the professional tools for the task.
Peter
 
Peter Chamberlain said:
My take is a little different. I don't think anyone can be a colorist just as not everyone can be a DOP, or director, or VFX artist, or stunt guy. Each has their own skill set. For example; I am personally low on the colorist skill set scale compared to many but maybe higher on workflow and management.
The great thing today is BMD is offering the tools for those with the right skill set, so the 'cost of goods' is not the limiting factor it has previously been. If you have the skill set to be the best colorist in the world, or your street, you can now afford the professional tools for the task.
Peter
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Not much disagreement here.
My original point was more directly related to the story Grant Petty told on occasions, when he described the impetus of purchasing DaVinci. When he saw the telecine image with DaVinci grading for the first time, he was amazed and immediately hooked. It was, in his own word, magical.
So, soon this magic will be available to the mass market. Unfortunately, better tools do not necessarily translate to better quality. If anything, it usually just translates into higher quantity at mediocre quality. Personally, I had never met self taught colorist, who was able to master high end grading without any interaction with other colorists. That is why, in my opinion, best colorists are still working at traditional post facilities, where best and latest grading practices and techniques usually developed. Resolve on a Mac, no doubt, will be a wonderful tool. But even great Davinci pedigree doesn't discount the need for talent and experience.
One final unrelated thought. It's not a coincidence, that everyone keeps referring to Resolve as Davinci. DaVinci name is the magical. Everyone knows and respects that name, not the Resolve. Is there a possibility to resurrect the once proud DaVinci name as a sign, that real DaVinci is truly back?
 
Eki Halkka said:
Hasn't that been the case already? There's no voodoo in the high end grading suites really, you can do all the same stuff with cheap software. The only thing that's different is the time it takes.
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That is true, there is no vodoo involved, it's actually called - mojo. A dedicated color grading tool built from the ground up is is waaay, waaay more practical and useful than a set of aftermarket plugins, and general image curve controls. And yes, real time feedback is an important part of matrix. The baptism by fire for a software tool is if it can routinely manage to meet the demanding delivery constraints in the service industry.

If so it has a (permanent) home.
 
But obviously,the consensus will need to see how Mac|Resolve performs, the exact hardware demands, before everyone swims to the other side of the river. The specs are there, the pedigree is there, the demo impressive.
 
Any update as to release schedule?
 
Can the mac version Input and output 2k/4k DPX/R3D?

Can it read R3D?

Or is all that Linux only?
 
mac version can read r3d and it suports build 30, you need two gpu cards in your mac to run resolve properly. One normal one like the gt 120 for the gui display, and the second ona a powerful one which does all the rendering like the GT 285 or the fx 4800. for hd sdi preview you need the blackmagic Hd extreme.

manuel
 
What about release schedule?? Anyone??
 
Does anyone know if there is a limit in the software to how many GPU cards Resolve will use on a Mac or is it just a limitation that you can't get more than that two GPUs in a Mac Pro?

If you got a x16 PCIe expander and put four GT285s in your Mac Pro would Resolve software be limited from using them?


Dusty
 
Dustin Cross said:
Does anyone know if there is a limit in the software to how many GPU cards Resolve will use on a Mac or is it just a limitation that you can't get more than that two GPUs in a Mac Pro?

If you got a x16 PCIe expander and put four GT285s in your Mac Pro would Resolve software be limited from using them?


Dusty
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Yes, there are limits. PCIe has the concept of "lanes", usually a per-slot maximum. You can't create more lanes by using an expander; you can just spread the existing lanes over more slots.
 
Erich Ocean said:
Yes, there are limits. PCIe has the concept of "lanes", usually a per-slot maximum. You can't create more lanes by using an expander; you can just spread the existing lanes over more slots.
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That doesn't answer the question about if Resolve will try to use the multiple GPUs.

The performance benefit is a totally different question.


Dusty
 
DaVinci on MAC is Vaporware at the moment. It is not going to work like people think until they spend close to $30,000 MINIMUM not including client monitoring. mark my words... make that LUCAS's words.
 
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