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DaVinci Resolve Lite 8.1.1 released with unlimited nodes and DNxHD included

There is a new 8.1.1 release available for download on the Blackmagic Design web site. All versions now include the DNxHD capability.

In addition to the items Steve mentions, add shared database support, noise reduction and Stereo 3D support.
 
Steve Sherrick said:
Had a feeling there may be some backlash on this from existing customers.

This should seal the deal on what the most common color grading app will be.
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Let see. Yes, Apple sells their hardware through use of great software. So now, let's say Apple announced, that all Apple apps for iPad are now free. How many developers would continue to develop for the iPad? Baselights and Pablos will be just fine. But now there is no incentive for those high end companies to bring their products to a wider use. Just look at Storm and Scratch and extrapolate their experience in trying to bring new ideas in the market, where their products were competing with free offerings to the rest of color grading ladnscape. I didn't like the free offering it at the beginning and I still don't like it.
 
Dwaine Maggart said:
There is a new 8.1.1 release available for download on the Blackmagic Design web site. All versions now include the DNxHD capability.

In addition to the items Steve mentions, add shared database support, noise reduction and Stereo 3D support.
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Thanks for the info Dwaine.
 
am i missing something? i know there was discussion about a windows version of resolve, and the site says that it is now for mac, linux, and windows... but i can't find any information about the windows version, would anybody care to enlighten me?

also, didn't i hear something about an ipad "control surface" app for resolve?
 
Wow! added noise reduction? That's insanely amazing. I just took the FXPHD classes on resolve 101, 201, petty basic stuff. But gives a good technical overview of the software. also check out this site has some cool cherry tutorials colorgradingcentral.com. Now if Only Jake Blackstone would teach me some really cool grading tricks "i could rule the world"
 
jake blackstone said:
Does that means, that you can or can not open exported project file from a full version in a lite version and vice versa?
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I don't have the latest versions installed just yet ... but I think that you could always open Resolve Lite projects in Resolve and vice versa.

The downside was that if you opened a Resolve project in Resolve Lite ... nothing would work except the first two nodes on every grade - you know ... whatever you could do on Resolve Lite in the first place.

I suppose now you could "offline" a grade on a 1080p system, and then "online" it on a full Resolve in full resolution.
 
@ Paul: neither do I see a version for Windows there. Maybe it's just a standardized template for all products?
 
DaVinci Resolve Lite includes all the same high quality processing of the full DaVinci Resolve, however limits projects to SD and HD resolutions, unlimited nodes using a single processing GPU and a single RED Rocket card. Stereoscopic 3D features, noise reduction, power mastering, remote grading and sharing projects with an external database server are features only offered in the full DaVinci Resolve so are not included in this free DaVinci Resolve Lite edition. Customers who want these features can simply upgrade to the full DaVinci Resolve Software for only US$995

so no stereo 3D, no noise reduction, no power mastering, no remote grading, and no database sharing.
 
Gunleik Groven said:
Well, the 1000$ was allways quite symbolic, and BMD wants to push hardware through software and basically rule the world...
I'd say this is a pretty good stab at exactly that....
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I agree.

Today BMD lost a Resolve sale.

My immediate needs are for a 1080p picture that needs only modest noise reduction I can do with blurs, or outside of Resolve.

In the long run, they just made a new fan.

I'll buy a pile of hardware to turn a MacBook Pro into a portable grading solution/DIT station that wasn't on the map before. I couldn't justify the Mac, Resolve, and an Ultrastudio + HD Link- so I was buying none of it.

Take the price of Resolve out of that puzzle ... I am totally happy buying that BMD hardware for the workload I expect that system to have.

They are also going to get my money for a real Resolve ... I need the features Resolve Lite is missing.

So, essentially they just let me manage my money a bit better ... I can defer the cost of Resolve a bit longer.
 
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I will buy the full version to support your good attitude. And the noice reduction.
 
jake blackstone said:
Let see. Yes, Apple sells their hardware through use of great software. So now, let's say Apple announced, that all Apple apps for iPad are now free. How many developers would continue to develop for the iPad? Baselights and Pablos will be just fine. But now there is no incentive for those high end companies to bring their products to a wider use. Just look at Storm and Scratch and extrapolate their experience in trying to bring new ideas in the market, where their products were competing with free offerings to the rest of color grading ladnscape. I didn't like the free offering it at the beginning and I still don't like it.
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I agree with you to a certain extent. It is hard to compete against free, and in this case Black-Magic has a decided advantage in that Resolve only works with their hardware. So, they can basically control the landscape. Really, at this level who are they competing against anyway? Apple bowed out. Adobe is exploring the waters. All the others are in the higher end and like you said will probably be fine because their feature sets cater to a more advanced market.

I think a competitor would have to have a similar approach where the software helps sell some hardware. In some ways, Redcine-X Pro falls into that category. You can use it with just CPU but to really power it properly, having a Red Rocket is a key part.

We could have a philosophical discussion about where this has all been heading the past few years. Prices keep getting lower, more people have access to professional level tools, and now the question is - is the industry better for it? Certainly a conversation over a few beers.
 
@ Steve...

I've landed on: It's only for the good...

The parallell to the music business is screaming, and after the dust had settled, the guys that actually knew squat about audio, recording and signaltreatment before Cubase/ProTools/Whatever survived and still can charge well for a good days work.

The added bonus is that some very few, that had the talent, but lacked the cash also have been able to establish themselves. But they are like 1/1000th of those buying the software/hardware for a "home studio".

I don't fear this and I think it is a natural development.
Assimilate was in a possision to do exactly this (not "free" but "mass market") when they had the ball back in 2008, and decided against it.
Lucas was arguing why this was a good move.
And hopefully for them, it still is!

But with Adobe buying SpeedGrade, the toolset available within FCP7/FCP-X (I dunno about the latter, but I have heard good things about it...), grading apps have become accessible to the many.
So you have to offer what really counts and what sets you apart:

Skillset and understanding + an artistic approach.

That said, grading did not suddenly become "free"
You still need monitoring, computers and whatnot + a controlled room to work properly.

There's more than enough investments to do to set you appart on kit, if that is what you need to convince your customers to pay their bills...

Cheers

G
 
Steve Sherrick said:
I agree with you to a certain extent. It is hard to compete against free, and in this case Black-Magic has a decided advantage in that Resolve only works with their hardware. So, they can basically control the landscape. Really, at this level who are they competing against anyway? Apple bowed out. Adobe is exploring the waters. All the others are in the higher end and like you said will probably be fine because their feature sets cater to a more advanced market.

I think a competitor would have to have a similar approach where the software helps sell some hardware. In some ways, Redcine-X Pro falls into that category. You can use it with just CPU but to really power it properly, having a Red Rocket is a key part.

We could have a philosophical discussion about where this has all been heading the past few years. Prices keep getting lower, more people have access to professional level tools, and now the question is - is the industry better for it? Certainly a conversation over a few beers.
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For me the seminal aha moment was when for the first time I saw Colorfront's demo an NAB. That was a revolution, that brought the modern DI into being. It's ironic, because at the time DaVinci was on the receiving end of the blow. Lustre, Baseligh, Nucoda, Pablo, Scratch and others was made possible, because there was a market, where new ideas were rewarded and profits could be made. Now financial rewards are gone as so is the fertile ground for innovation. As you correctly point out, there are no real competitors to Resolve now. Unfortunately, there is no reason for new Colorfront to come into being as well...
 
Gunleik Groven said:
@ Steve...

I've landed on: It's only for the good...

The parallell to the music business is screaming, and after the dust had settled, the guys that actually knew squat about audio, recording and signaltreatment before Cubase/ProTools/Whatever survived and still can charge well for a good days work.

The added bonus is that some very few, that had the talent, but lacked the cash also have been able to establish themselves. But they are like 1/1000th of those buying the software/hardware for a "home studio".

I don't fear this and I think it is a natural development.
Assimilate was in a possision to do exactly this (not "free" but "mass market") when they had the ball back in 2008, and decided against it.
Lucas was arguing why this was a good move.
And hopefully for them, it still is!

But with Adobe buying SpeedGrade, the toolset available within FCP7/FCP-X (I dunno about the latter, but I have heard good things about it...), grading apps have become accessible to the many.
So you have to offer what really counts and what sets you apart:

Skillset and understanding + an artistic approach.

That said, grading did not suddenly become "free"
You still need monitoring, computers and whatnot + a controlled room to work properly.

There's more than enough investments to do to set you appart on kit, if that is what you need to convince your customers to pay their bills...

Cheers

G
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You keep missing the point. I'm pretty happy with my own skill set, where I do not have to worry about armies of new "colorists" suddenly pouring into the market.
I'll be just fine:-)
But I will miss the innovation of :
"Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status-quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify, or vilify them. But the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do"
People and companies needs to be rewarded for risk and innovation and now that had been taken out of the equation.
 
Just to be clear:
I am not in ANY way disputing your skillset!!!
Actually I hold you in very high regard!

LOL

And I see your point.

I just think this development is kind ov inevetable, and I think it will change less than many thinks.
Not particularily talking about you...

Cheers
And thanks for your great help and pointed posts!

Gunleik
 
Gunleik Groven said:
Just to be clear:
I am not in ANY way disputing your skillset!!!
Actually I hold you in very high regard!

LOL

And I see your point.

I just think this development is kind ov inevetable, and I think it will change less than many thinks.
Not particularily talking about you...

Cheers
And thanks for your great help and pointed posts!

Gunleik
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Oh, no. I wasn't taking it personally. No worries:-)
I just wanted to make it perfectly clear, that it's not about individuals and their skills, but more about the business landscape, that is pretty much removing ANY incentive to develop and innovate.
Also, I'd like to be clear, that I'm very happy with the Resolve team and the product itself. They are great listeners and consistently improve Resolve.
My problem is strictly with BM marketing. This "scorched earth" policy of pretty much destroying all reasonably priced software products, in my opinion, it is short sighted and wrong. I think this is particularly obvious in view of Grants pronouncements of love for "all things color grading and DaVinci in particular" right after the purchase of DaVinci.
 
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