DaVinci Resolve 10

[shashbugu]

The editing portion of Resolve is to accommodate users wishing to finish in Resolve. Hence the high level finishing tools, like OFX, motion flow, temporal Noise Reduction! etc. I don't think BM intent is to replace a standard NLE used in a traditional editing.

Who cares what BMD's intent is, if the puppy can bark it's a dog. LoL. Jake, I can just see your the big smile on your face when your up sell your TVC & MV clients on online edits.

I'm not sure how the fox plugins will be integrated, but something tells me BMD have bigger ambitions than just editing. Compositing maybe!!...

Ofx Genarts sapphire, and all the effects plugins for nuke, fcpx, http://www.toolfarm.com/products/category/3313/all

 

[jake blackstone]

I'm relaying the essence of the conversation with a few of BM people on the subject of reason of including editing package in Resolve. They are being realistic, as BM doesn't want to create an impression, that Resolve is a full blown NLE, because it's not in any way, shape or form. No real editor worth their salt would want to edit in Resolve in it's present form. The inclusion of editing tools is a start of creation of a finishing package. As I said, the inclusion of high end tools, like proper NR, optical flow, OFX plugin architecture, ability to manipulate individual color channels for images on RGB, HSL or YUV basis, high quality keyer, title generator, DCP delivery etc. indicates an attempt to create a grading/finishing package. It's work in progress and who knows what will happen in the future. Does this all means, that you will not be able to do simple edit, that doesn't require multicam and other tools, that editors may find indispensable? Of coarse not. I had seen people editing in AE and I know there will be people using Resolve for editing as well. So, there...

 

[Marc Wielage]

We are pleased to announce DaVinci Resolve 10.

Wow, the feature list looks great, Peter! I continue to be impressed by how well Blackmagic continues to develop and support Resolve. Hats off!

I'm relaying the essence of the conversation with a few of BM people on the subject of reason of including editing package in Resolve.

My joke in the old days of telecine, when we got to the point where we were practically online-editing shows in the telecine bay -- complete with titles and sound -- was, "it's easier to edit in a color-correction room than it is to color-correct in an edit bay."

Clearly, we're reaching a point where the lines started blurring considerably a long time ago. But I still think the right thing to do is to hire an editor and buy editing software to edit, hire a colorist and buy color-correction software to do color, and hire a sound mixer and buy sound-editing/mixing software to do the mix. Don't try to do it all in one place.

 

[shashbugu]

I'm relaying the essence of the conversation with a few of BM people on the subject of reason of including editing package in Resolve. They are being realistic, as BM doesn't want to create an impression, that Resolve is a full blown NLE, because it's not in any way, shape or form. No real editor worth their salt would want to edit in Resolve in it's present form. The inclusion of editing tools is a start of creation of a finishing package. As I said, the inclusion of high end tools, like proper NR, optical flow, OFX plugin architecture, ability to manipulate individual color channels for images on RGB, HSL or YUV basis, high quality keyer, title generator, DCP delivery etc. indicates an attempt to create a grading/finishing package. It's work in progress and who knows what will happen in the future. Does this all means, that you will not be able to do simple edit, that doesn't require multicam and other tools, that editors may find indispensable? Of coarse not. I had seen people editing in AE and I know there will be people using Resolve for editing as well. So, there...

Fair enough. But from the published specs its the same as FCP used to be before multicam was tossed in, or Avid Film composer of old, or even discreet Edit, speed razor, they all never had multicam. What's important is it can chase SMPTE and LTC time code for real online sound syncing and conforms.
It has all the basic edit functions, including trim edit offline online playback, transitions (including over 200 built into Genarts).

Isn't baselight for nuke OFX?

I'm getting ahead of myself, but I believe there's enough time to toss in feature requests

 

[Sergio Perez]

Wow, the feature list looks great, Peter! I continue to be impressed by how well Blackmagic continues to develop and support Resolve. Hats off!


My joke in the old days of telecine, when we got to the point where we were practically online-editing shows in the telecine bay -- complete with titles and sound -- was, "it's easier to edit in a color-correction room than it is to color-correct in an edit bay."

Clearly, we're reaching a point where the lines started blurring considerably a long time ago. But I still think the right thing to do is to hire an editor and buy editing software to edit, hire a colorist and buy color-correction software to do color, and hire a sound mixer and buy sound-editing/mixing software to do the mix. Don't try to do it all in one place.

My thinking, as a TVC director and independent filmmaker, is that having an "editing resolve" allows me to do my rough cut and do a basic color correction or look, and then send it to the Colorist and online editor for the finish with that "general idea" done on the same software. It will certainly save time with the redundant stuff like EDL or XMF importing, media reconnect, etc., which is money you waste where it could have been used on the task itself by the professionals. Love the idea and will definitely get Resolve 10.

 

[Marc Wielage]

BTW, I noticed Blackmagic also very quietly announced a new version of the Smartview Duo monitors with Scopes for $995:

This is a real killer app for somebody looking for accurate hardware scopes outside the box. If it works as well as Blackmagic says, this will be a must-have for many Resolve users (and maybe even some who use other color-correction software). It doesn't quite replace a $20,000 Tektronix scope for everything, but I bet it'll suffice for 90% of what goes on in a color session.

If I can offer one suggestion: give us a brighter (adjustable) reticle and "legal" boxes for the circular vector display. And I assume there's a way to go to 2X or 5X on the vectorscope, which is a must-have for color-correction.

 

[Henk van den Doel]

Will version 10 have different system requirements/recommendations opposed to Resolve 9?

 

[Peter Moretti]

So, you're a clairvoyant now? I also imagine, if one to ask BM if they planning to built a space station, they will deny it too. Just saying...

And if they had just put a man in orbit, I'd wonder about that denial too.

 

[Mike S. M.]

Sure you will be able to edit in Resolve. As some said, you can even edit in After Effects. Heck, you can edit now in Resolve 9 if you really want. But there's nothing in the announced features that tells me any editor will come running to edit in Resolve. I think the only people who will consider fully editing in Resolve will be people without money, one-man-band outfits, indie filmmakers etc. But these people are used to compromising anyways so nothing changes for them. But I can't see any Hollywood editors for example dropping their Lightworks and Avids to edit in Resolve for the same reason Smoke is not the standard editing tool of choice in the industry. I think Resolve is stepping more in Smoke's turf than it is or intend to in Avid's. At least for now.

 

[Peter Proniewicz-Brooks]

Sure you will be able to edit in Resolve. As some said, you can even edit in After Effects. Heck, you can edit now in Resolve 9 if you really want. But there's nothing in the announced features that tells me any editor will come running to edit in Resolve. I think the only people who will consider fully editing in Resolve will be people without money, one-man-band outfits, indie filmmakers etc. But these people are used to compromising anyways so nothing changes for them. But I can't see any Hollywood editors for example dropping their Lightworks and Avids to edit in Resolve for the same reason Smoke is not the standard editing tool of choice in the industry. I think Resolve is stepping more in Smoke's turf than it is or intend to in Avid's. At least for now.

There are interviews with BM out there that pretty much confirm this. This is more for finishing and similar than proper editing.

 

[Eric Santiago]

Got to see the demo at the SuperMeet.
Alexis Van Hurkman showed off the editor.
I almost screamed when he dragged a clip to the "Canvas" and the old school FCP Edit Overlay popped-up.
No one else in the room made a peep so I kept that contained.

 

[jake blackstone]

BTW, I noticed Blackmagic also very quietly announced a new version of the Smartview Duo monitors with Scopes for $995:

This is a real killer app for somebody looking for accurate hardware scopes outside the box. If it works as well as Blackmagic says, this will be a must-have for many Resolve users (and maybe even some who use other color-correction software). It doesn't quite replace a $20,000 Tektronix scope for everything, but I bet it'll suffice for 90% of what goes on in a color session.

If I can offer one suggestion: give us a brighter (adjustable) reticle and "legal" boxes for the circular vector display. And I assume there's a way to go to 2X or 5X on the vectorscope, which is a must-have for color-correction.

So, that's what it is. BM had it running on all Resolves and it looked great, even with all those bright lights. I was so excited about new features of 10, that I forgot to ask about it. I'm going to get one of those.

 

[shashbugu]

Got to see the demo at the SuperMeet.
Alexis Van Hurkman showed off the editor.
I almost screamed when he dragged a clip to the "Canvas" and the old school FCP Edit Overlay popped-up.
No one else in the room made a peep so I kept that contained.

tell us more

 

[Mike S. M.]

BTW, I noticed Blackmagic also very quietly announced a new version of the Smartview Duo monitors with Scopes for $995:

This is a real killer app for somebody looking for accurate hardware scopes outside the box. If it works as well as Blackmagic says, this will be a must-have for many Resolve users (and maybe even some who use other color-correction software). It doesn't quite replace a $20,000 Tektronix scope for everything, but I bet it'll suffice for 90% of what goes on in a color session.

If I can offer one suggestion: give us a brighter (adjustable) reticle and "legal" boxes for the circular vector display. And I assume there's a way to go to 2X or 5X on the vectorscope, which is a must-have for color-correction.

What I'm also curious about is the 17" version. Is that supposed to be a color grading reference monitor? Is it color accurate at all? It says it does REC709. Is it a 10 bit panel?

 

[Hrvoje Simic]

What I'm also curious about is the 17" version. Is that supposed to be a color grading reference monitor? Is it color accurate at all? It says it does REC709. Is it a 10 bit panel?

6 bit.

Its purpose is convenience and affordability, not reference monitoring.

 

[Brandon J.F.]

Blackmagic Design Davinci 10 In Depth

 

[Frederic Busnel-Joncour]

EasyDCP may be a good software, but their prices are out-of-touch with current competitors.

Hi Luis,

What competitors are you talking about ?

AFAIK, All the other DCP mastering sites with encryption and KDM handling (DVS, CineAsset, etc...) are costy. But if you have any cost-effective alternative, I'll be very happy to know them.

 

[Luis Otero]

...What competitors are you talking about ?...

Frederic,

My point is that the capability can be built into Resolve to let us, the users, to select which software we want to use to generate the DCP, not to limit the authoring system to a specific one. Look at new FinalDCP (just as one example). Is a software that is getting there if you are following its development, which is significantly cheeper.

Just my 2 cents...

 

[Robert Ruffo New]

Frederic,

My point is that the capability can be built into Resolve to let us, the users, to select which software we want to use to generate the DCP, not to limit the authoring system to a specific one. Look at new FinalDCP (just as one example). Is a software that is getting there if you are following its development, which is significantly cheeper.

Just my 2 cents...

fully agree.

 

[Bing Bailey]

FinalDCP just doubled in price from 700 euros to 1499 - hardly what I would call cheap but cheaper than easydcp. frankly I'd be very happy if they built dcp creation into NLE's or Resolve