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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DaVinci 8.1 Announced!

Rosario Balistreri said:
absolutely true, Photoshop and after effects are leader on what they do... but I can't say the same thing on premiere...
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Which version of Premiere Pro did you try Rosario? Adobe has made some really good progress with Premiere in the last few versions - plus they are actively listening to users and taking feedback on board.
 
Which version of Premiere Pro did you try Rosario?
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Not CS5 nor 5.5 I guess. Even CS4 was pretty well done and quite on par with FCP.

Adobe know what we want, and uses the board as a roadmap for their products, thanks to people like Bruce Allen , Shashbugu etc... This is a major deal maker for me... and the software is good.
 
Brad Allen said:
Which version of Premiere Pro did you try Rosario?
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Uses to edit in Premiere since CS2, switched to FCP one year ago and I increased the speed and the "partnership" with the machine...

Opened a friend project on Premiere Pro two months ago and I remembered why I switched to FCP eheh
Editing with a trackpad on FCP is like grading with a surface for most of you ;)

Probabily it's just a personal feeling, but FCP works faster for me, and I'm not referring at H264 native support of PP but offline-online workflow of Log and Transfer ;)
Apple color integration is also a plus :)
Now that FCPX is out I didn't fall in panic for choosing my next NLE software... FCP7 is still my favorite and works really well right now, no need to search for something new now that I'm trying to be a colorist first instead of an editor ^^
 
Jake Bastian said:
So I'm guessing between this news and the news that Adobe acquired Iridas Speed Grade that integration with Premiere isn't really a priority for either company right now...
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The question for me is how long Adobe will continue to sell and support both SpeedGrade and Premiere. Or will they incorporate features of both into a single product?
 
Marc Wielage said:
The question for me is how long Adobe will continue to sell and support both SpeedGrade and Premiere. Or will they incorporate features of both into a single product?
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Speedgrade is a grading app, while PPro is an editor. So far Adobe has resisted creating one app, like Smoke and I don't see that changing any time soon.
With Speedgrade purchase Adobe had assembled a suite of apps, just like Final Cut Studio. The real question is how they planning to move projects between different apps- PPro, AE, Speedgrade, Photoshop and whatever sound app they have these days. I can't see Adobe making a real effort in accommodating Resolve. It's a competitor now...
Another question now is how long before Avid buys Assimilate?:thumbup1:
 
jake blackstone said:
Another question now is how long before Avid buys Assimilate?
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I've been waiting for someone to buy Assimilate for at least 2 years now. I thought for a time that a merger between Assimilate and Iridas would have been a very good combination, with Iridas contributing a lot of image processing expertise and technology, and Assimilate contributing great interface design and a solid playback and conforming engine. I even suggested it to both, but maybe it's a German/Dutch thing, because neither was interested even though they both saw the logic. A little late for that now, although I do agree that an Avid purchase would make sense, as it doesn't seem to me as a casual observer that Avid is particularly interested in developing DS any further, and also because Avid really doesn't have anything to offer currently that does what Scratch does. That would include cross platform operation, file sequence awareness, scalability, ability to do very effective dailies creation (color, synching, transcoding, anything really), GPU debayering technology, and also serve as the basis for DI type post work. Sounds like a good, complementary match to me.
 
M Most said:
Sounds like a good, complementary match to me.
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That is unless Avid goes for broke and decides to buy Nucoda from Image Systems. It seems to me, Image Systems had lost interest in post with their move into defense market. Avid and Digital Vision had always enjoyed special relationship, demonstrated by their peerless ability to interoperate. Personally I would love to see this happen. Assimilate must do something, soon, as they are stuck in no-men's land. They are the only free standing company left, offering professional, inexpensive-ish, cross platform, software only grading solution. They will newer be able to match BM in it's ability to use inexpensive software to sell the hardware. And they don't have the prestige, customer support and installed user base of Filmlight, deep pockets of Autodesk or Quantel.
 
jake blackstone said:
Assimilate must do something, soon, as they are stuck in no-men's land. They are the only free standing company left, offering professional, inexpensive-ish, cross platform, software only grading solution. They will newer be able to match BM in it's ability to use inexpensive software to sell the hardware. And they don't have the prestige, customer support and installed user base of Filmlight, deep pockets of Autodesk or Quantel.
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That would all be true, except that I don't believe that Assimilate sees Scratch as a "grading solution," and frankly, neither do I. Scratch is primarily a general purpose media management, conforming, and playback tool that happens to have grading capabilities than the other way around. It also is a very effective dailies creation tool, and for that you can use the Lab version, which sells for about $5K, a pretty attractive price when you compare it to competing products like Colorfront. There are far more seats of Scratch worldwide that are not used for color work than there are color seats, Assimilate themselves would probably confirm that. Only in the Red world is it seen as primarily a color grading system.

Now, having said all of that, I agree that they probably need a suitor at some point going forward.
 
Should we expect it to be released today by midnight (even if it is PT)?
 
Jake,

Thanks for the heads-up. I was planning on camping 'till 3:00 AM ET....!
 
Peter Chamberlain said:
Thanks Jake, you're right it's worth the wait.
Just a little longer guys. We are finishing of a couple of things spotted in our QA cycle.
Thanks for your patience.
Peter
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Peter, you and your team do an amazing job. Any update is always a huge deal and well appreciated. The constant improvement and listening to customer wish lists really never goes unnoticed. Can't wait for 8.1, and can't wait for future updates to follow! It only gets more awesome.
 
I rather wait a few more days than having issues with the excellent stability Resolve has shown until now.
 
DaVinci Resolve 8.1 stable and ready for use ...

DaVinci Resolve 8.1 stable and ready for use ...

Uli Plank said:
I rather wait a few more days than having issues with the excellent stability Resolve has shown until now.
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Uli, we've been using the 8.1 beta for a week now and it is indeed already very stable ... plus, some very cool new features ... and as ever, great support from BlackMagic Design ... these guys have done a truly amazing job in re-engineering DV Resolve for the Mac ... all three of our colorists have switch over to using Resolve now .. we were fortunate enough to be a beta tester on the original DV Resolve 8.0 version and graded several features using the beta build.

BlackMagic were kind enough to do a story on the Kevin Hart feature 'Laugh At My Pain' which they published in POST magazine and put up on their website:

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/community/communitydetails/?UserStoryId=24045

The great thing about using DV R8 is that as well as doing 2D color correction, we can also do 3D work in real time ... our Mac Pros are fitted with PCIe expansion boxes ... one of them with 3 x GTX 480 cards ... runs like greased lightning and can handle 3D work with ease... the days of expensive heavyIRON solutions are surely numbered ... I think there's at least two Pablos for sale on RU at the moment ... they don't seem to be selling like hot cakes :-(

As soon as you can, upgrade to DV R8.1 ... you will be not be disappointed!

Neil
 
I'm sure I won't be disappointed – never was since switching to Resolve from Color.

Do you really use the expression "greased lighting" in English? Funny, since we say "Geölter Blitz" in German – pretty much the same ;-)
 
Greased lightning and other variations ...

Greased lightning and other variations ...

Uli Plank said:
I'm sure I won't be disappointed – never was since switching to Resolve from Color.

Do you really use the expression "greased lighting" in English? Funny, since we say "Geölter Blitz" in German – pretty much the same ;-)
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Yes, we use 'greased lightning' all the time ... even here in sunny Los Angeles .... however, I was actually going to use another English expression to describe the performance of Resolve 8.1 on the 3 x GTX 480 cards .... it translates roughly into some like .... runs like "Scheiße aus einer Schaufel" .... not sure if the metaphorical intention gets lost in translation but it's a phrase we use a lot ;-)

What GPU's do you use on your DV Resolve system?

Neil
 
Hi Neil

I have 2 x Quadro FX4000 cards in my box in a cubix expander on 8.01 and i recently graded a 90min feature on it with no problems at all. I have the new 12 core mac with 24 gig of RAM and dual SSD drives in a raid hanging of my AVID UNITY media engine (fibre connection) and everything worked flawlessly.

Some scenes had up to 17 nodes and I still had realtime playback with no issues. Some people run 3 x quadro cards, but I haven't had the need.

I do however put my red rocket card in this box when working on longform RED stuff.

The main feature I would like to see in the next build of resolve would be joining timelines. As it would be really handy to be able to do this on RESOLVE as the feature i worked on
was in 4 sections, so In the end I got a final timeline and colour scene detected the earlier grades i did on the separate scenes.

Still worked fine.
 
We were lucky enough to grab a few GTX 285 when they were still cheap, plus we have one Quadro 4800 FX. No expansion boxes with multiple cards yet, but for us as an arts university the number of seats is more important than speed.
 
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