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Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera disappoints...

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Has anyone done a shoot to show true 13 stop dynamic range?
 
this black sun has appeared everywhere from B&W film to pretty much every raw still image processor (in different shades of color)....i believe the BMCC still has the issue....i somehow doubt that firmware will be able to fix it...post seems to be a better solution....
i will actually get mine next week, bought it because i had to get resolve and at that point it is a no brainer....
let's be serious....either one of these cameras at those prices are to be considered....yes, there are drawbacks, yes, there most likely issues that require workaround....but let's be honest...which camera does not?
i will use the BMCC as a walk around 13stop raw camera....the dng stills look great....really great....
i might reconsider when the file sizes get too huge.....but all in all most criticism does not seem fair when considering the price....i would take these over any dslr for video work any day....at any price....but i don't shoot hours of video and i don't need built in sound....
 
paul schefz said:
this black sun has appeared everywhere from B&W film to pretty much every raw still image processor (in different shades of color)....i believe the BMCC still has the issue....i somehow doubt that firmware will be able to fix it...post seems to be a better solution....
i will actually get mine next week, bought it because i had to get resolve and at that point it is a no brainer....
let's be serious....either one of these cameras at those prices are to be considered....yes, there are drawbacks, yes, there most likely issues that require workaround....but let's be honest...which camera does not?
i will use the BMCC as a walk around 13stop raw camera....the dng stills look great....really great....
i might reconsider when the file sizes get too huge.....but all in all most criticism does not seem fair when considering the price....i would take these over any dslr for video work any day....at any price....but i don't shoot hours of video and i don't need built in sound....
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The ability to hang this camera off the side of an Epic is kind of tempting. As a "rough" B-Cam, its very intriguing...
 
Brandon J.F. said:
There's apparently a "black hole" problem too...

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Thank you for your Post.

why show this "black hole" in SUN?

A humorous incident
In the past month of November .. In our City ..
Everyone, mobile phone camera at the sun. Amazement. All your photos (specially China Mobiles.)in a black circle in the middle of the sun.
So hit the Earth, the planet is (Dec-26) that the rumor was spreading.


:P

TnX
 
the problem is that it not just the sun...can happen with any highlight....
 
It's a blooming issue !

Btw the black highlight was also visible on the original RED One M camera, fixed by firmware or MX upgrade can't remember...
 
I was rooting for this camera to be a great crash-cam, or B-cam when the Epic (despite how small the Epic is) is just too big for a camera setup (such as in cars).

Playing with one as we speak, so far, the results sure don't feel like 13 stops.
 
Isaac Marchionna said:
Playing with one as we speak, so far, the results sure don't feel like 13 stops.
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Doesn't look like 13 stops from the footage I've seen either. I really want to like this camera. I hope things improve.
 
While I might not put Philip Bloom in the same category as Roger Deakins or Bob Richardson, he is talented and has done some nice work. I think the backlash is more about his decision to shill for products that had flaws he knew how to minimize - in that respect he is seen by some as contributing to mis-information, which, it could be argued, led some folks to buying decisions they later regretted.

Cheers - #19
 
Isaac Marchionna said:
I was rooting for this camera to be a great crash-cam, or B-cam when the Epic (despite how small the Epic is) is just too big for a camera setup (such as in cars).

Playing with one as we speak, so far, the results sure don't feel like 13 stops.
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+1 on hopes of making this a Crash-Cam. I would rather use a 5Dmk3 at this point. I simply have ZERO faith in Black Magics camera systems. what a disaster.
 
Brandon J.F. said:
Doesn't look like 13 stops from the footage I've seen either. I really want to like this camera. I hope things improve.
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Black Magic is a very sleazy company, sleazier by the day - I for one don't fully trust anything they make gear-wise. Many of their PCI cards are also complete bullocks/garbage and neither last nor work as advertised. I'm sure it will have all kinds of other issues with reliability. It's a 3C product - Cheap Chinese Crap.
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
While I might not put Philip Bloom in the same category as Roger Deakins or Bob Richardson, he is talented and has done some nice work. I think the backlash is more about his decision to shill for products that had flaws he knew how to minimize - in that respect he is seen by some as contributing to mis-information, which, it could be argued, led some folks to buying decisions they later regretted.

Cheers - #19
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What nice work? All I see is lost of craggy types at bus stops set to old tracks from Moby.
 
Robert Ruffo New said:
Black Magic is a very sleazy company, sleazier by the day - I for one don't fully trust anything they make gear-wise. Many of their PCI cards are also complete bullocks/garbage and neither last nor work as advertised. I'm sure it will have all kinds of other issues with reliability. It's a 3C product - Cheap Chinese Crap.
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not affiliated with BM in any way but i really have to disagree with pretty much all of what you are saying....
the BMCC is very well made, we really don't have to talk about resolve....
they are pushing beyond the limits with their cameras...way beyond....the chinese knock offs can't compete.....
i don't think that either one of their cameras is the best or the last word but they are very capable and they are forcing the issue price wise which is good for all of us....
again, i just got my BMCC, haven't had a chance to really look into it but it is far from 3C and for 1000$ (on top of resolve, which is what i needed) i am completely blown away.....
 
Robert Ruffo New said:
What nice work? All I see is lost of craggy types at bus stops set to old tracks from Moby.
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haha! Thats so true. I don't own a BMCC and have resisted just due to the impression that they tend to over promise and under deliver on a regular basis...or at least it seams that way. I really wanted to dig their stuff. Just can't yet until they can prove that the "hype" is more than just hype. Haven't seen any proof on that yet. Given...a $1000 dollars for a decent camera is really cheap...just getting the impression that in 2 years I would have a really nice $1000 paperweight if it just does not deliver. I feel that way about their other camera as well.
 
I don't want to knock the cam until I've used it, but this looks max 9 stops of DR, no where near 13... Anyone else agree from what we've seen thus far?
 
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