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BeSteady FOUR Thread

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Marcos Montenegro said:
Piotr:

When will the cables ship?
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Hi Marcos,

I'm still waiting for those. All production companies aren't working during last days of December and first days of January so I can't do much about that I'm afraid. I will let you known when I will receive confirmation about delivery dates.

Best
Peter
 
Just did a first quick and dirty test and I'm pretty freakin' stoked! I'll upload what I captured sometime this evening. It's nowhere near a proper/thorough test but you'll have a basic idea of what I managed to get out of the box with a first try.
 
Okay, here's a quick and dirty. In the spirit of keeping my stuff light-hearted, enjoy the 0:25 mark...



Keep in mind this is the first time I've ever used any gimbal whatsoever. It was a fairly heavy rig. Had the Dragon with a 18-35mm Sigma ART lens along with a big 160wh vMount battery on the back. Had a 36" thin LCD cable from BattlefieldCine that I hooked up to the 5" on the handlebars. I'm on follow mode (tilt and pan) and the focus is static. I was also holding the gimbal by the top handle.

The bump at 0:40 is me hitting the gimbal (so not the gimbal's fault).

If you have any questions, ask away. I hope to do more tests in the near future (longer lenses, running faster, ...etc...)

P.S. That running kid hadn't even been conceived when this group buy started...
 
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Hello Ryan,

nice one and funny to watch :) We hope to see more of such footage in near future from rest of guys from this group buy. Ryan, I'm still counting to see your short unboxing/story movie :)

And once again I would like to remind you to read manual and see tutorial movies, they are great help. In case of additional questions don't hesitate to contact Maciej from our technical support. He is there to help you out - but please remember that we are in Europe, so there is a time difference.


Best
Peter
 
Piotr Chmielewski said:
but please remember that we are in Europe, so there is a time difference.
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Is it a four week time difference Peter? He still has not responded to my email about the status of my v2 upgrade from Dec 2.
 
Marcos Montenegro said:
Piotr:

When's the actual v2 manual coming online? There are so many features that are not in the manual now.
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Hi Marcos,

we are updating the manual right now, but like you have pointed out we have added a lot of new functions so the work is in progress. I believe it will be finished in January but I can't confirm you precise date.

Right now if you have questions please ask them directly to Maciej from support - he will help you.

Best
Peter
 
Hey Peter, will there be a mount for the larger batteries included in the accessory kit? Were we supposed to get that with the original package? I got a mounting plate in the package (type B) but it doesn't appear to lend itself to holding the batteries (I've got the red touch lcd screwed to it, working great).
 
Ryan Sauve said:
Hey Peter, will there be a mount for the larger batteries included in the accessory kit? Were we supposed to get that with the original package? I got a mounting plate in the package (type B) but it doesn't appear to lend itself to holding the batteries (I've got the red touch lcd screwed to it, working great).
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Ryan,
Thanks for asking the important questions - and especially for sharing your experiences.
Looks like there is supposed to be a mount for the large battery included (Accessorium Type D)


Retrieved from the original BS thread:



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05-22-2014, 02:02 AM


Hi,

like promised, BeSteady Four - RedUser edition accesories list:


1x D-Tap camera shelf extension cable (1 to 2)
1x D-Tap camera shelf extension cable (1 to 4)
1x D-Tap camera shelf RED power cable
1x DC to DC cable (connecting gimbal to In'n'Out powerbox on Handheld XL module)
1x BeSteady thin RED TouchScreen cable
1x BeSteady RED TouchScreen Accessorium Type C (mounting on 25 mm carbon tube)
1x BeSteady Stand XL
1x In'n'Out powerbox for Handheld (LEMO 2-pin, D-Tap, 2x DC connectors)
1x 15 mm rods adaptor for camera plate (carbon rods included) for follow focus systems, etc.
1x BeSteady large battery (90Wh, it is needed to power up RED EPIC with gimbal)*
1x BeSteady large battery Accessorium Type D (mounting on 25 mm carbon tube)
1x BeSteady Thumbstick - exclusive RedUser edition
1x Pelicase with custom fitted foam


*- the gimbal itself comes with 2x BeSteady small batteries, this config is good for example for Canon C100/300/500 cameras.

Best Regards
Peter



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 05-22-2014, 06:42 AM


Powering BS4 with small batteries is for lightweight configurations - like C100/300 etc. If you are going to power RED or F55 you should use a Large battery. Small batteries cannot be used with the Large one at the same time.


Large batteries can be connected in configuration of one or two at once - you can hot swap them.


In'n'Out is a power hub - it can be used to connect different batteries like V or AB.


Detailed specs on the In'n'Out module will be released shortly.


Best Regards
Peter



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06-13-2014, 01:45 PM


Core package - RU GB:
1x BeSteady Four 3-axis 2 IMU 3 encoder gimbal
1x BeSteady XL Handheld
2x BeSteady standard small batteries (stick type, used in BeSteady ONE)
1x Charger for small batteries (may be used for large one's as well)
1x Preconfigured Graupner MZ-12 (transmitter)
1x Preconfigured Graupner GR-12 (receiver) + velcro strap
1x 15 mm rods adaptor for camera plate (carbon rods included) for follow focus systems, etc.

Accessories pack - RU GB:
1x D-Tap camera shelf extension cable (1 to 2)
1x D-Tap camera shelf extension cable (1 to 4)
1x D-Tap camera shelf RED power cable
1x DC to DC cable (connecting gimbal to In'n'Out powerbox on Handheld XL module)
1x BeSteady thin RED TouchScreen cable
1x BeSteady RED TouchScreen Accessorium Type C (mounting on 25 mm carbon tube)
1x BeSteady Stand XL
1x In'n'Out powerbox for Handheld (LEMO 2-pin, D-Tap, 2x DC connectors)
1x BeSteady large battery (90Wh, it is needed to power up RED EPIC with gimbal)
1x BeSteady large battery Accessorium Type D (mounting on 25 mm carbon tube)
1x BeSteady Thumbstick - exclusive RedUser edition
1x Pelicase with custom fitted foam

Classic package - typical user (not-RU limited edition, ~10k USD in dealer shops right now):
1x BeSteady Four 3-axis 2 IMU 3 encoder gimbal
1x BeSteady XL Handheld
1x BeSteady Stand XL
1x 15 mm rods adaptor for camera plate (carbon rods included) for follow focus systems, etc.
2x BeSteady standard small batteries (stick type, used in BeSteady ONE)
1x Charger for small batteries (may be used for large one's as well)
1x Preconfigured Graupner MZ-12 (transmitter)
1x Preconfigured Graupner GR-12 (receiver) + velcro strap
1x Pelicase with custom fitted foam

There will be special upgrade packages available after first shipments to dealers:
- RED user package (with thin RED TouchScreen cable, Accessorium Type C and cables)
- F5/F55 user package (special XLR power cables for that setting)
- large battery upgrade (with large batteries, Accessorium Type D etc)
- BeSteady Thumbstick
- BeSteady Carbine Handheld (working with ActionProducts Raptor)
etc.

15 mm rods adaptor has been moved to core package.
Currently we are on track with shipping. Because of third party companies I cannot tell when exactly we will ship accessories.
We are discussing what we may do with those who want receive full package. It would be best for us because of costs of shipment, but we want to ship gimbals as soon as possible. On Monday I will discuss that with our team.
We will also discuss additional large batteries. I've got no clue about quantities we will have.

There were questions about BeSteady Stand XL: I need to ask Max Salamonowicz, our CEO, if I may post pictures. Anyway - it is fully foldable, it may be used on plain surface such as table or ground, or (when upside-down) on tripod (mounted with photo screw).

If you would like to get in touch with me directly please use this email: peter@besteady.eu
I cannot still use my .pro email address, as we still cannot get any information from Registry.pro about our status.

EDIT: You may find our website here: www.besteady.eu and forums here: www.forum.besteady.eu
I'll be back in office on Monday, guys are still working there, if you got something important before Monday - please send PM to Max Salamonowicz on BeSteady forum.
 
Hey Guys,

just received my "Beast" and wanted to share my quick first impression.
for context i have a bit of experiences with the Movi (around 5 shoots) and quite a bit more with the Ronin as we bought one while waiting for Beast to show up.

what was in the package :

Gimbal
XL Stand
accesorium type A and B
plate and 15mm rods
screws
2 big batteries
2 small batteries
charger
remote Graupner MZ 12 and receiver
usb cable
big battery to lemo DC in cable.

what is missing from what i remember from the group buy list (feel free to correct me):

lemo to quad DTAP cable
DTAP to red epic power lemo cable
RED LCD flex cable
thumbstick controller
big battery mount


Build Quality and packaging :

-the gimbal in itself is very well build, the carbon and aluminium parts looks top notch. at least on par with the movi but way more integrated and clever design.
-the Peli Case is perfect, it's a real one not a cheap plastic one like the Ronin and you put the gimbal all set up inside, no removing the handle bar.
-charger looks cheaply built, and the big battery also don't look robust (there is a spot of glue protecting the wires and that got off instantly)

Ergonomics :

-having a LCD on the back is really really a nice thing, you can adapt / diagnose / change everything on the fly, no iPhone or computer needed.
-balancing was no trouble and tool-less, you only have to be used to the one screw for the left/right front/back adjustment, you have to hold the camera while getting the left/right and not crew up the front/back.
-the two tube batteries are awesome, when your flying a smaller camera you only need those.
-the fact that we will be able to power the epic from the tray is also amazing, no redvolts or big vlock on the tray! that's why this missing cables are an essential part of the kit.
-the easy adjustable handle are also a treat, thoses having trouble locking the ronin handle will love those.

Tuning :
- no complex PIDs like the other alexmoss, just a power and filter option, basically high frequencies vibrations : lower the power untill they are gone / low frequencies vibrations : get the power up. best spot is to be just "under" the high frequencies vibration.
- again all done from the oled screen
- got a red epic + canon lens + 130wh vlock back pack to work in less than 15min
- tried autotune and it seems to work (got the power settings up to 90% but probably because the balance was not very good) never got it to work on the Ronin so that's an upgrade ;)

Remote control:
-couldn't get the remote control to work properly, the gimbal just goes for an 20° roll and won't get the horizon again. pan and tilt work controlled by the remote.
i have figure out why it does that...

Computer/Phone tuning:
-couldn't get the gimbal to connect to the latest App on OSX, tried USB and bluetooth with no luck.. i don't have access to an android phone so i can't test it but i'll try from a windows pc later. i just hope they'll get an IOS application running soon..

Actual Stabilisation :
-hard to tell without complementary tests, but it looks promising. i'll try to do the same handheld run with the ronin/movi/beast and get a better feel of how it performs against the other.


overall i am very happy to get a functioning and pretty well designed/built gimbal after all this time, they are still some stuff that i have to figure out but even as it is i feel confident it's a great step up from our Ronin.

we really need to get those missing cables (at least the power option) to enjoy one of the greatest feature of the Beast but when they do we should be able to say it was worth the wait !

i'll report on my progress.

Cheers and happy new year !
 
Bérenger Brillante said:
Thanks for the review Loic, and both of you for the lists.

Can you tell us which spot you were on the waiting list ?
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I am number 31 and received mine on Christmas Eve.
 
EDIT : my mistake, the ACR manager only work with the smaller gimbal. there is no working application for the Beast right now..

and i have no idea what number i was on the line sorry Bérenger, but you are free to come over and give the gimbal a spin anytime this week !
 
Hello Guys,

to those of you who received your units, please share your experience here - I believe your feedback will be invaluable for all of those who are still waiting for their units. Providing links to your instagram experiences will work great :)

I would like to clear some things out next. What you are receiving as The Beast Red Package:
The Beast gimbal core unit
The Beast handheld with Lock'n'Load connector
The Beast short camera plate
Rods adapter with short carbon tubes and long carbon tubes
Small photo screw (1/4")
Large photo screw (3/8")
Two vertical tubes with caps for XL stand
Horizontal cross section for XL stand
Preconfigured Graupner MZ-12 radio with GR-16 receiver
6-to-double-3 servo connector for GR-16 receiver
Velcro (Graupner receiver mounting)
*Thumbstick
Accessorium Type A
Accessorium Type B
The Beast custom original Pelicase
Peli foams (main brick, top thin, gimbal security block, stand foamy grip)
2x Small 'stick-type' batteries (JST connectors)
2x Large battery (DC connector)
*Large battery mount (main carbon plate, two velcro straps, two boom-blocks, 4 screws, 2 small plates with nuts)
LiPo/LiIon charger with DC and JST connectors
Cable - USB Mini
Cable - large battery DC to gimbal DC-IN Lemo 0B
*Cable - camera shelf Lemo 0B to 4x AB/D-Tap
*Cable - AB/D-Tap to 6-pin RED power Lemo
*Cable - RED touch flex cable

And one more thing. SRP for core unit is 6 190 EURO and you are receiving additional equipment for about 1 100 EURO for total of 7 290 EURO. I'm giving you those numbers just in case any of you is wondering about that.

*Asterix-marked products - those still should be sent to you if you haven't got those in Pelicase.

Best
Peter

ps.
Our work never ends. We joined forces with friends and shot short movie with plenty of BTS. Here's a sneak peak

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Hey Peter,

Do you have an ETA on missing accessories? I'm missing...

*Large battery mount
*Cable - camera shelf Lemo 0B to 4x AB/D-Tap
*Cable - AB/D-Tap to 6-pin RED power Lemo
*Cable - RED touch flex cable
 
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