Atlas Lens Co. - Orion Series 2X Anamorphic Prime Lenses

[Richie Allen]

You can add Narcos Mexico to the mixed bag as well. While mainly anamorphic, some of the night scenes are spherical

 

[David Mullen ASC]

I think "Monuments Men" did some night work and wide master shots on spherical, rest of the movie on anamorphic.

 

[Joe Cage]

I think "Monuments Men" did some night work and wide master shots on spherical, rest of the movie on anamorphic.

Do you think anamorphic works better for Close ups and medium shots then wide shots?

 

[David Mullen ASC]

“Better” is subjective, better in what way?

 

[Joe Cage]

“Better” is subjective, better in what way?

Just wondering why monuments men used the wide angle shots on sperical, as I thought wide shots would automatically be wider on the anamorphic end. At night I can understand as most spherical lenses are faster then anamorphic lenses.

 

[David Mullen ASC]

If you want a wider spherical view, you just use a shorter focal length. I think on “Monuments Men” they found less edge distortion when shooting in low-light on wide shots if they used an 18mm Master Prime instead of, let’s say, a 35mm or 40mm anamorphic.

 

[joshua csehak]

IIRC, there was a dialog sequence in The Man From UNCLE (2015) where one guy was shot spherical and the other anamorphic. (Gorgeous movie, BTW.) Always wondered why they did that.

(edited and moved content, thought I was in the "Ask David Mullen anything" thread!)

 

[Aaron Lochert]

IIRC, there was a dialog sequence in The Man From UNCLE (2015) where one guy was shot spherical and the other anamorphic. (Gorgeous movie, BTW.) Always wondered why they did that.

(edited and moved content, thought I was in the "Ask David Mullen anything" thread!)

I definitely remember that. I wonder if it was intentional or just an anomaly of scheduling/rentals/pickup shots/etc. I snagged some screengrabs:

 

[Nick Morrison]

IIRC, there was a dialog sequence in The Man From UNCLE (2015) where one guy was shot spherical and the other anamorphic. (Gorgeous movie, BTW.) Always wondered why they did that.

(edited and moved content, thought I was in the "Ask David Mullen anything" thread!)

Love that movie so much. I think it may be Guy Richie's best. Looks incredible.

 

[rand thompson]

Presentación de Lentes Harmonica Rental - Microsalón AEC 2018 - ECAM

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Prueba de lentes del catálogo de Harmonica Rental mostrada en el Microsalón AEC 2018.
Van Diemen Bausch & Lomb Baltar
Mitchell Hi Speed AKA Superspeed Baltar
Cineovision-TLS
Atlas Orion Anamorphic Lenses

The Atlas lenses start at about the 19:20 mark. Don't know if this is the same video that has been posted before or not

 

[David Mullen ASC]

Did you read somewhere that those shots in "Man From Uncle" were spherical? Because most anamorphic zooms are rear-anamorphic designs and don't produce the elliptical bokeh.

 

[joshua csehak]

Did you read somewhere that those shots in "Man From Uncle" were spherical? Because most anamorphic zooms are rear-anamorphic designs and don't produce the elliptical bokeh.

Son of a gun, I didn't know that! (Clearly don't get a chance to work with anamorphics enough.)

 

[Chris Kennedy]

Did you read somewhere that those shots in "Man From Uncle" were spherical? Because most anamorphic zooms are rear-anamorphic designs and don't produce the elliptical bokeh.

I could’ve sworn that I read somewhere that they used super speeds, but “We shot mainly with Panavision E Series Anamorphic primes and older Technovision spherical lenses, which all had the feeling of the time. They possessed aberrations and a fogging or veiling which helped to set the film back, not as far as the Sixties, but certainly a throwback to the past.” https://britishcinematographer.co.uk/john-mathieson-bsc-the-man-from-u-n-c-l-e/

Anyway to get back on track I’m thinking on pulling the trigger on ordering a set on Atlas Orion lenses, anyone have an idea how long the wait would be for them to ship?

 

[Phil Holland]

To add to David's insightful answer, I've worked on a few films in the past where spherical glass was used for wides, but that was mainly due to some (especially older) anamorphic wide angle primes not exactly holding up well.

Pretty much what Chris said.

Most modern anamorphics wouldn't suffer from much of that chaos. Though you may get the look discrepancy as David alludes to.

 

[David Mullen ASC]

Thanks for that BSC link -- that BTS photo of Mathieson shooting Elizabeth Dubecki look like it shows a spherical image being cropped to 2.40 on the onboard monitor.

 

[David Mullen ASC]

It was a big deal for anamorphic enthusiasts when Panavision finally introduced an anamorphic zoom using front anamorphic elements. Hawk also makes one. But most anamorphic zooms (including Panavision) and telephoto lenses are rear-adapted from spherical so they lack stretched bokeh, though the longer adapted lenses can exhibit squared bokeh (the rear cylindrical element is square when looked at face-on.) But back in the past, people weren't necessarily shooting anamorphic for the stretched bokeh, they were shooting it in order to use the larger (taller) area of the 4-perf 35mm film negative to get a 2.40 image.

 

[kylebainter]

The new Cooke Anamorphic zooms look beautiful when paired to front Anamorphic glass. They have a definitive oval bokeh. You are limited in focal length range when compared to rear element anamorphic glasss.

 

[rand thompson]

One day in LA with Atlas Orion Anamorphic

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Atlas Orion Anamorphic 40mm + Panasonic gh5

 

[John Marchant]

I knocked up what I hope is a handy product for all us Orion shooters.

KipperTie Orion 19mm support

 

[Nick Morrison]

I knocked up what I hope is a handy product for all us Orion shooters.

KipperTie Orion 19mm support

Awesome - love that you do this.