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Announcing RED STANDARD OLPF for RED Weapon and RED Dragon.

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Brent@RED said:
Bob, once we have quantities built up, SCARLET and EPIC will ship with STD OLPF by default. WEAPON, you will be able to choose.

Did we also mention that forged WEAPON orders will get all three OLPF offerings? STH, LLO, and STD at no additional charge? If you already took delivery of forged, you will get it as we start rolling out deliveries…



The magenta orbs flaring off the light source? Yes, on EPIC/SCARLET DRAGON, you will see that same reduction as you saw on STH. And, note, on LLO with WEAPON, also a big improvement on that front.

EDIT: Jarred beat me to the punch!
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Ah ha! Thank you, sir. I scroll too fast. This is pretty nice! All of these choices rolling out, between RED and Kippertie, are quite wonderful. Kid in a candy store....I love the interchangeable OLPF system. Makes anything possible.
 
Big +1 on this one

As a DIT it's tough cause productions hardly give you a prep day so when shooting Multi Camera you never know what your gonna get. Try to demand for a Prep just to make sure the cameras match OLPF plus the Firmware match, 2 crucial things you have to check for, if not the cut will need some more attention in post hurting deadlines in the commercial world.

Having the option to swap out your OLPF is really only offered by Red which is cool but sometimes it makes me wonder if this Standard OLPF is what should have shipped with Dragon in 2013.

By now Rentals Houses and 1st AC are accustomed to know better so it's easier to keep track nowadays.

From here on out when I get a Weapon package Ill be excited to see a little box with OLPF cause you really need them all, every job every scene will be different and will help with the end result.


Brent@RED said:
Bob, once we have quantities built up, SCARLET and EPIC will ship with STD OLPF by default. WEAPON, you will be able to choose.

Did we also mention that forged WEAPON orders will get all three OLPF offerings? STH, LLO, and STD at no additional charge? If you already took delivery of forged, you will get it as we start rolling out deliveries…
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This looks pretty great.

Yeah, once you open up Jarred's pictures in their own tab (they're scaled down in the thread), it becomes pretty obvious that Weapon Dragon and Epic Dragon aren't the same thing.

Weapon has much less horizontal streaking, plus more latitude overall.

It also seems that Weapon just blocks out more of the IR pink-ness that made things look bad to me in LLO (and previous MX sensors too).

Weapon LLO almost looks like Dragon STH!

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Is there going to be a fix for the CMOS smear in Epic bodies? Or is this a Weapon only improvement? It was one of the primary reasons that I decided not to upgrade my MX. It was just too easy to induce in too many situations.
 
Looks great, would love to see some LOG images. The epic smear does look better, but not perfect. The weapon looks spot on with color, flare, smear and everything else.
 
Nice Job RED. That OLPF is something that has been asked for and you just delivered.
Really like the design of the WEAPON OLPFs, no screws!

What i just learned in this thread (again) is, i want all three OLPFs and i want a WEAPON. Hehe. :)
 
I think this is a must-have for indie production where there just isn't time (or crew) to switch out the OLPF as much as needed. Ordered!
 
How much of the color and highlight properties do we loose when using the standard OLPF? I mean, having a OLPF that sits in the middle may be the best option overall, especially when people have been accustomed to shooting 640-800 ISO on the MX and then need to lower the ISO in order to reduce noise. This might solve the issues many have, but not if it's destroying important aspects of the STH.
 
Grant Smucker said:
FALSE COLOR!? Is this a new feature on Weapon with more intervals of false color?
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Not a new feature, it's actually in current builds right now. It's called GIOSCOPE. It produces a false color image where each color represents precisely 1 stop of light straight from the RAW sensor data. You can customize which colors are toggled on and off, which is very useful for certain shooting applications. I use it a lot for instance when checking green screens, windows, or pockets of shadow.
 
I think most doc shooters, or anyone like myself who doesn't have the luxury of control over their lighting conditions, it seems the Low Light OLPF has become the default. This new Standard OLPF looks great, but I'm inclined to stick with the LLO. Having useable footage in low light situations, for me, seems like it would still outweigh the gains in any other areas. It's roll off in the highlights isn't as pretty, but it still looks usable. I am curious what others think.

If you had to shoot outdoors from no light in the morning, straight through until the sun was blazing right over head, which single OLPF would you use?
 
Skip Hobbie said:
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If you had to shoot outdoors from no light in the morning, straight through until the sun was blazing right over head, which single OLPF would you use?
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I think the new Standard OLPF will be perfectly suited for these situations since it sits right in the middle. However, I'm quite curious where to rate the new OLPF in order to get the best results. I've personally come to love the Skin-Tone OLPF for its fantastic highlight roll-off and color capabilities, thus trying to avoid the Low-Light OLPF as much as possible. In the end, I guess it will come down to personal preference (i.e. color reproduction, noise levels).
 
Toby Linden said:
I think the new Standard OLPF will be perfectly suited for these situations since it sits right in the middle. However, I'm quite curious where to rate the new OLPF in order to get the best results. I've personally come to love the Skin-Tone OLPF for its fantastic highlight roll-off and color capabilities, thus trying to avoid the Low-Light OLPF as much as possible. In the end, I guess it will come down to personal preference (i.e. color reproduction, noise levels).
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With Weapon being a 1/2 stop cleaner in the shadows and shadow details I think we'll all be looking at how we use each of the OLPFs differently.
 
It should be possible to measure - objectively - how much light it blocks compared to the LLO right? Are we talking half a stop?
 
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