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Adobe Abandons Creative Suite, Announces Full Switch to Creative Cloud

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Note of caution in regards to the pricing structure.
The stated price is the sweetener hence why its for one year only .....after that who knows, but it will certainly be going up...how much by ? I imagine annual price increases will be on the cards . As others have stated you pay the price to access the system.....so if you decide to opt out in the future all previous work done on adobe will be void. No legacy no nothing just maybe H264 or DI copies.

Whilst I don't have problem with software downloads I have huge problems with "the cloud". Any proscriptive software trying to drive me onto I will not use or trust in our line of work. IMO the cloud has always been about data harvesting and on selling for the developer. Why in an age of data storage costs falling through the fall do we need storage in the cloud. Its simple we don't.

I remember recently a thread on Reduser where someone had changed over to a new computer and thru some tech issue had voided the Adobe cloud software, shutting down all adobe programmes across the board, not just on the new computer but also the editing station mid job. The solution ring a call centre in India wait hours on the phone to be told you will have to wait 72 hours for the system to be updated . Is this the future we are paying for & need ?

P.S the upside I think Aussies will now be paying the same price as the US. So now more inflated mark ups. Can anyone confirm this ?
 
Elsie N said:
After learning more I'm warming to it. Still have no confirmation that Speedgrade and AE will be included, but it seems likely.
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All Creative Suite apps are included. It appears that because of existing policies that Acrobat and Lightroom will have the option of a perpetual license - they serve more niche segments in comparison to CC as a whole. Acrobat and Lightroom are included currently with Creative Cloud and will continue to be so.
 
Angelo Lorenzo said:
All Creative Suite apps are included. It appears that because of existing policies that Acrobat and Lightroom will have the option of a perpetual license - they serve more niche segments in comparison to CC as a whole. Acrobat and Lightroom are included currently with Creative Cloud and will continue to be so.
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Then I guess I'm in when, like Jeff said, the current app updates become available. I've always managed with just Premiere Pro and AE as a standalone, updated individually. The CC will have much software in it that I just have no need for but having Speedgrade included makes the cloud more attractive to me. But I'll try to stay current with Redcine X Pro just in case Adobe takes advantage of our being a captive client. With their pricing, they are on the very edge of keeping me on board or going a different route.
 
Phil Holland said:
I believe you'll still be able to use these programs "off line", it's more of branding and focus on "Creative Cloud".

It would be suicide if you can't use applications in the field.
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And it would be suicide for them even if you just had to depend on a connection of any sort to be allowed to work.
 
jake blackstone said:
$19.95 a month to rent a single app.
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Hmm... not exactly cheap, especially compared to the whole package price.

Thing is, if it ain't broke, why try to fix it? We've got both outright purchase and cloud now. Each to their own. Adobe: leave well alone. Don't look to create problems where there aren't any.
 
Like most changes that seem drastic at first, I'm confident this will end up being okay with everyone. Change is always challenging.

If a 1-year subscription for every product only costs 20%-30% of the CS purchase price than what's the problem?

I tend to upgrade once every three years or so. Sounds like it will cost me the same or less, except I'll have access to every product and never be a version behind.

Starting to think this is going to work out.
 
But what about the guys who like to update only when needed to keep there license going? Before they started charging more, by forcing us to update more often, this used to be a cheap suite. I bought in as a student intending to upgrade for life on a irregular basis every few years. To have them first make me update more frequently and then push me to a subscription based pricing is not what I wanted when I bought in! I am not pleased, plus its probably too late for us to have any influence at all in this. I get why they want it, no more bootlegs if everyone needs a subscription... Plus constant cash flow. Makes a lot of sense on there end I admit, but not so much on mine. First Apple did me in with X. Then you guys too? Avid it is...I'll just use CS5 until I don't need it any more (which is now basically because it won't read my red dsmc raws and I was fully ready to pay to OWN cs7 (or 6.5) )... But I am going to be seriously suspect to want to buy into this... Like some others warn, they can just up the price on us forever now and we are stuck in there ecosystem forever...

Please come out with a month to month option for couch editors? I mean if your gonna charge us while were not even getting gigs plus prevent access since we need the script that leaves non post houses in a world of hurt. I work at a post house, but also freelance at home and I saw this coming when the Creative Cloud came out. I was whining about this happening the moment they announced the darn cloud. Seen this coming a million miles away... This SUCKS
 
Adobe had the most numerous and most flexible licensing options in professional software. It was one of their many, great strengths. Now they have one option, and it is not very attractive... not to me.
 
I purchased the Production Suite CS6 for $413 with an education discount and can use it for years to come. This kills the idea of upgrading anytime soon. Very disappointed. Why are so many companies nowadays looking at radically changing their software that causes them to alienate a large percentage of their customer base?
 
I jumped on the creative cloud thing a few months back, and I have enjoyed it. For anyone starting out it´s easier getting in as you don´t have to spend a big chunck on the initial software, you just pay your monthly subscription - Plus they allow you to use it on two computers, which covers me with my initial lap top and my main Mac Pro.
 
I'm still running 5.5, the only advantage that CS6 offered me was the warp stabilizer in Premiere, but it's in After Effects in 5.5 so I just use that. The only reason I would ever consider upgrading to cloud subscription would be if Premiere began to support SLI or debayering on the GPU. Why on earth would I ever pay $50 a month for something that I own and does the job just as fast as their present offering? If I was Mr Adobe I'd be watching out for Resolve 10, as soon as it supports AVI output, I'd have a reason to purchase it.
 
Here's a question.

How many seats does a single Creative Cloud license provide?

Currently I can have CS6 running on my workstation and laptop.

Do I now need two licenses?

Can't find any info on the plan page.
 
Phil Holland said:
Here's a question.

How many seats does a single Creative Cloud license provide?

Currently I can have CS6 running on my workstation and laptop.

Do I now need two licenses?

Can't find any info on the plan page.
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Pretty sure you are covered with one license. As stated by others, you can even have one computer be a mac and the other a PC.
 
Phil, I'm pretty sure the Cloud License is the same, you can run it on a workstation and a laptop, but you're not allowed to run them at the same time, whether the Cloud License logs usage is another question.
 
So for existing CS6 customers this comes out to $240 a year and you essentially get the previous concept of the Master Collection. This is actually not a bad deal at all.
 
well check back with us ten years from now when your paying 600 a year for most of the decade lol (or more if they up the price since everyone and there mother needs AE, PS, and others)
 
A major concern for me is software version control over time. What happens if I need to go resurrect a project 3 years or 5 years later? Not easy in todays world but is in my control to make happen. Will Adobe support me in making sure that I have access to the exact version of the programs that I originally used? Is this automatic? How long are versions made available?

What happens if I have a project in works for a year+ and there a couple of releases of software during the project? Can I control when I "upgrade"? If so, for how long before Adobe says we no longer support that?

This model may become problematic for long-term projects and for recovering old projects.
 
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