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Adobe Abandons Creative Suite, Announces Full Switch to Creative Cloud

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http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/...ve-suite-entirely-to-focus-on-creative-cloud/

Adobe has shared with us that Creative Suite 6 will still be available for purchase, but it will not be updated beyond addressing bugs and OS compatibility. There will be no Creative Suite 7. Instead, Adobe is pointing all of its energy towards Creative Cloud, eliminating the familiar retail box in the process. Like last year, the company is releasing an updated suite of applications this June, newly branded as “CC” apps. This includes: Photoshop CC, InDesign CC, Illustrator CC, Dreamweaver CC and Premiere Pro CC. To dive into the new features, you’ll want to head here.
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but is this more of a piracy deterrent than a "feature"?

Not saying that it makes a difference in functionality (I haven't used their cloud stuff yet), but how do they handle offline/non-connectedness... For example, say you're on a 3 month long shoot without cloud/internet connection?
 
I believe you'll still be able to use these programs "off line", it's more of branding and focus on "Creative Cloud".

It would be suicide if you can't use applications in the field.
 
Phil Holland said:
I believe you'll still be able to use these programs "off line", it's more of branding and focus on "Creative Cloud".

It would be suicide if you can't use applications in the field.
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I'm getting the same from the announcement. The biggest change seems to be pricing structure, which is now subscription based. I'm sure you can run the Creative Cloud apps in the field, you just can't install or register them offline.
 
Mike P. said:
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but is this more of a piracy deterrent than a "feature"?

Not saying that it makes a difference in functionality (I haven't used their cloud stuff yet), but how do they handle offline/non-connectedness... For example, say you're on a 3 month long shoot without cloud/internet connection?
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The way it is now is every 30 days it checks if your subscription is valid. You are allowed a 7 days "grace period" if you are still offline. Then you're blocked. I'm not sure if this will change with the next release.

The change in model really helps Adobe with cash flow. Rather than (most of) their income coming in waves when upgrades are offered they get money every 30 days. No doubt it helps with piracy as well. I'm not sure that it makes it all that more difficult to pirate, but rather breaking down the cost into small monthly payments makes it more affordable to people that would otherwise pirate it. Also, makes pirating it seems like too much of a hassle.
 
The new version will be in wide release June 17th.

A few thoughts after I watched the MAX keynote. Creative Cloud has some great collaborative features geared mostly for smaller files (images/web/illustration) but that may lean towards better asset management for titles and things for us. We get access to hundreds of high end fonts in-program and so on.

I have a feeling that authentication will continue as it has. Program will run offline and need authentication about once a month. Too many people work in some semi-offline feature for Adobe to be stupid enough for an always-on policy. Adobe expressed interest in eventually moving some computationally heavy tasks like AE's rotobrush edge refinement to process in the cloud; again I feel like there would be fallback support so you could process it yourself offline.
 
Cool. Thanks for the clarity guys (Phil, Brandon).

I kind of agree with Stacey; I much prefer set-it-and-forget-it type buy... Is it set in stone that that won't be an option (e.g. life time subscription)? Also, it'd be interesting to see how many months it takes to be equivalent to a straight-out buy ala cost of CS6 or Production Premium.
 
I've used Creative Cloud for almost a year and haven't had any problems yet. In the beginning it didn't work like it was supposed to, but now everything is working fantastically. The co-op features aren't really fit for our type of productions and only support smaller file sizes.
A big plus for me was the ability to get any new update for free, including new versions. I do think this is a good way for Adobe to avoid piracy as well. In a way this is a win win, for Adobe and for people who like and use new features right away. For people who don't need them and maybe just upgrade every third version or so, this is bad news.

Maybe my teenage years as a World of Warcraft player made me used to monthly subscription fees :P
 
Saw this coming, writing has been on the wall for some time. Personally I don't have a problem with the cloud membership approach and in many ways it makes it easier to use it across more workstations, you can sign in/out of CC easier than activating and deactivating Creative Suite between workstations. And as I understand it, they still give the ability to maintain two active occurrences of each license.

The bad spart is for those of us who run multi-platform operations, the physical media purchase/ license was a much better deal. If bought through Adobe's Volume Licensing / business sales portal, you were given both Mac and Windows licenses for the same purchase price. So my $500 upgrade to CS6, for example, gave me both a Mac and a Windows serial number and I could install and run it simultaneously on two Mac and two Windows workstations. Cloud cuts that in half. Also, with the physical licensing, we only had to buy upgrades when they made the most sense. With Cloud, the annual price is about the same as the upgrade price has been. However, that is the annual price and makes no difference whether or not Adobe releases new versions/ upgrades or not.

All things considered, I like how CC works. I don't care much for their pricing model compared to what we had. Perhaps pricing is being updated too.... I hope. I haven't had time to sift through all the Adobe Max news.
 
its a giant excuse "innovation" for adobe to pick our pockets yearly. taking away choices is never a positive sign. so apple isn't the only company that displays arrogance
 
the way things are going it won't matter someone will end up cleaning their clock either black magic design or someone else. software as a service should be renamed software as a tax
 
Is being on the cloud a contract? That is, can I be on the cloud for six months and then off for a few months and get back on when ready (and not be charged for the time I am off)? If so, I like.
 
If you're the type of user who updates with each major release than this doesn't change much. And I'd bet most of us are that type of user.
 
My work station is off line, so how do this work out for me if I want/have to upgrade?
 
except now if you want to skip a generation of software because it wasn't that compelling you cant because you'll lose access to your software. this isn't progress unless its a choice. want to switch to something else and get off the adobe train but retain access to all your old files. well you won't be able to do that either unless you pay the adobe tax
 
Can't verify this but I was under the impression from something I saw on Adobe TV that Speedgrade would be included in CC. If what they've listed is all there is, I have no interest.
 
All things said and done, it looks like the new Dragon capable Redcine X Pro to .RED is looking sweeter and sweeter.
 
The other downside that Adobe will need to address is for those of us that have platforms that are required to be firewalled by an air gap to the internet.

There are a lot of workstations out there that process information that must remain untouchable by anyone without the proper clearance and need to know.
Requiring interconnectivity to a cloud would violate every known security procedure and put that information at risk.
 
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