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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

4K Monitors... urgent.

Jannard

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Apparently 4K panels are now showing up in stores (a great thing) and showing footage (another great thing)... but there is one big problem. The default setting from just about every manufacturer has Sharpness turned ON. This is a really bad thing.

We have quite a number of panels here at RSH and the very 1st thing we do is turn sharpening OFF. It just dawned on us that stores might not think about that. Please tell them when you see them.

Better yet... encourage the manufactures to set default Sharpness to OFF. Sharpening turns chocolate into sand. With real 4K... you have enough resolution. It doesn't need help.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
Apparently 4K panels are now showing up in stores (a great thing) and showing footage (another great thing)... but there is one big problem. The default setting from just about every manufacturer has Sharpness turned ON. This is a really bad thing.

We have quite a number of panels here at RSH and the very 1st thing we do is turn sharpening OFF. It just dawned on us that stores might not think about that. Please tell them when you see them.

Better yet... encourage the manufactures to set default Sharpness to OFF. Sharpening turns chocolate into sand. With real 4K... you have enough resolution. It doesn't need help.

Jim
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It would be awesome if someone created a thread about "best" custom user settings of each panel as it comes out, so we can cross reference those settings as a starting point to calibrate.

Any tips on best budget calibration equipment / techniques for sources like the RedRay or GTX Titan?
 
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At first blush I was a little underwhelmed by the 50" Seiki... Until I reviewed the thread where Jarred recommended the same (turn sharpness to off).

Ta-da. Instant fix. Beautiful monitor now. Thanks for the RED Tips.
 
Jannard said:
Apparently 4K panels are now showing up in stores (a great thing) and showing footage (another great thing)... but there is one big problem. The default setting from just about every manufacturer has Sharpness turned ON. This is a really bad thing.

We have quite a number of panels here at RSH and the very 1st thing we do is turn sharpening OFF. It just dawned on us that stores might not think about that. Please tell them when you see them.

Better yet... encourage the manufactures to set default Sharpness to OFF. Sharpening turns chocolate into sand. With real 4K... you have enough resolution. It doesn't need help.

Jim
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Manufacturers really need to ship sets calibrated properly. The MOST offensive is that bullshit Motionflow 120Hz and 240Hz stuff. It makes nice looking 24P material look like a soap opera. Jim I know you;re an advocate for HFR but I think we can all agree that a filmmaker's work should be displayed at the intended frame rate. Sony sets ship with that crap turned on and it's incredibly disgusting and offensive to our craft. It needs to be stopped.
 
John Bellari said:
It would be awesome if someone created a thread about "best" custom user settings of each panel as it comes out, so we can cross reference those settings as a starting point to calibrate.

Any tips on best budget calibration equipment / techniques for sources like the RedRay or GTX Titan?
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AVS Forums has threads for almost every consumer set with this information. Probably not 4K sets yet.
 
Maybe it is a good time to get a part time job at Best Buy. Here watch this demo reel I shot on r3d, now buy a 4K TV.
 
yes, sharpening and any other signal processing should be off on "consumer" monitors, including those nasty "dynamic contrast" adjustments....

and congrats to Jarred for the 100,001st REDUser thread !!
 
It probably isn't fair for me to say since it will be blasted around the globe and all the manufacturers are working on fixing their image issues. I think you will have a ton of good options to choose from in the very near future.

Jim

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What's your favorite one so far?
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I can't believe how many people I know have there TV's set to 120 hertz, it totally destroys the look of films. When I ask them about it, many don't even notices it. Drives me insane.
 
Jannard said:
Apparently 4K panels are now showing up in stores (a great thing) and showing footage (another great thing)... but there is one big problem. The default setting from just about every manufacturer has Sharpness turned ON. This is a really bad thing.

We have quite a number of panels here at RSH and the very 1st thing we do is turn sharpening OFF. It just dawned on us that stores might not think about that. Please tell them when you see them.

Better yet... encourage the manufactures to set default Sharpness to OFF. Sharpening turns chocolate into sand. With real 4K... you have enough resolution. It doesn't need help.

Jim
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While I agree 100% I see a 0% chance of success unfortunately. Everybody who appreciates high quality home cinema displays has for a decade been fighting: sharpness, oversaturation, excess contrast, dynamic contrast, 120hz etc etc etc... to no success. I've seen TVs that can't even turn off dynamic contrast--it's hard coded to on.
 
Totally understand

Jannard said:
It probably isn't fair for me to say since it will be blasted around the globe and all the manufacturers are working on fixing their image issues. I think you will have a ton of good options to choose from in the very near future.

Jim
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I almost got kicked out of a Harvey Norman the other day while looking at their 4K setups there.
The sales personal had absolutely NO idea about this technology whatsoever....the demo footage they displayed on the screens was all time lapse footage shot single frame on DSLR cameras, no actual motion footage as such or anything that originated on a true 4K camera.
When I asked them if they heard of RED, the RED Ray Player and 4K delivery I only got blank faces. they were not able to tell me where the 4K footage on their display came from nor how it is actually ingested into the TV, what cables/ playback they are using and so on.

there is a lot of educating to be done in this area for people to truly understand 4K and to sift through all the sales people bullshit and half knowledge thats out there unfortunately.
 
Agreed.

Jannard said:
It probably isn't fair for me to say since it will be blasted around the globe and all the manufacturers are working on fixing their image issues. I think you will have a ton of good options to choose from in the very near future.

Jim
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And well done.

:beer: cheers to all TV manufacturers.

May they be successful and produce sets that make all of us proud.
 
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