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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

13th responses here...

Bateau said:
You don't have any plans for a programmable geared head do you?
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Bateau, please leave some space for 3-rd party accessories... :innocent:
I already have to scrap 3 months of R&D on stereo (3D) mount... :waaa:

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So you bought the RED ONE. What about you? Shoot your RED ONE as it is. It takes incredible images. Or upgrade your sensor. Upgrade to EPIC. Buy a Scarlet at a discount. Scarlet will not do all that the RED ONE will. Whatever you do, you are 1st in line.
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I like the RED upgrading program. I just think that while many of us probably will upgrade to EPIC, other users people would like the chance to exchange their RED for a 17500$ value pack of Scarlett.
 
Hmm. Time to start saving for Scarlet FF35. Timelapse would be nice. For me, long exposure is an absolute must. I regularly do 10+ minute exposures, and if Scarlet is to work as a DSLR for me, then it has to be able to this. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is buffered shooting of motion. I know this can be done with the R1, and I would very much like to see it on Scarlet too.

Oh, this might premature, but any information about the degree of weather sealing on the DSMC system would be much appreciated. :cold:
 
OK, the new full(-er) specs raise the hopes. :)

But nevertheless, the 2/3" Interchangeable Scarlet seems to be my baby.

Any chance for those to fly home by April\May?
 
Do Scarlet and Epic shoot UNCOMPRESSED RAW still images? What about having the option of shooting uncompressed or lossless RAW motion? SSDs are developing fast and soon we'll have 1,6Tb SSDs with transfer rates about 300MB/s, which should be enough to shoot at least some minutes of 2k uncompressed footage (correct me if I'm wrong)
 
supernovafilms said:
Current red owners can trade $17500 for an epic in 15months (probably 18-24 months) for approx $10,000 extra... At that time, you get a product worth $30 odd thousand for $10,000 more... Really you are getting what will be the best camera system in the world for $10,000...
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Errrr... no!

The figure you quote is just for the "brain". You will also need the I/O module, the CF module, etc.

And prices for these have not been announced yet.

But from estimates flying around, the upgrade price will be more like $30,000 extra.
 
vinney57 said:
Maths not your strong point then?
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Well, I have to admit, it has been MANY years since I got my degree in statistics...

However, it was not me that put both "2,251,799,813,685,248 possibilities" and
"over a trillion..." in the same press release.

And as for the people who have suggested factorials... no, because we are considering discrete combinations. i.e. you would only use factorials if you were to have ALL 7 bodies combined together, which you won't. You will choose 1 of the 7 bodies, etc.

So feel free to correct my maths if I am wrong.
 
I am rather impressed by this Companys ability to create such a stir with a really nice bunch of 3D renders :). Don't get me wrong I'm sure the Cameras are coming but I haven't seen this much interest in a product before the product is around, well, ever.

I'm loving the specs but there is a lot of detail lacking, like prices for the bits you're now going to need to make the previously 3000 dollar camera a reality. I'm guessing it's going to be more like $5K for a workable Scarlet, when released (or more than just a really beautiful 3D render).
 
damianheffernan said:
...but I haven't seen this much interest in a product before the product is around, well, ever...
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This is mostly due to the fact that the "other" companies NEVER talk about the product until they are ready for shipping. Let alone accepting any end-user input into the development cycle... :devil:
 
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Hello,

Sorry if this has been stated by Red somewhere but my eyes are crossed from reading all of these posts.

Has there been an explanation of the lower res/higher fps modes on Scarlet S35 and FF35. Is it achieved by downrez or windowing? Thanks for any explanation.
 
AntonyCASAFilms said:
Errrr... no!

The figure you quote is just for the "brain". You will also need the I/O module, the CF module, etc.

And prices for these have not been announced yet.

But from estimates flying around, the upgrade price will be more like $30,000 extra.
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$30,000 for a full frame red epic camera that beats anything on the market, that can be used for almost any filming situation you can think of, with red ingenuity, sensor advancement and the most amazing digital camera system on the planet? Where do i put my money down? I put my hands up for being an early adopter...

and i get to keep my reds value while i wait, and use it on jobs rent free?

I suppose i could invest my money in the stock market or something more stable *cough*
 
I have seen Jim's revised brochure page.
Has any info about accessory pricing (batteries, etc)
and ordering info for Epic & Scarlet been announced?
 
Red Guy said:
I have seen Jim's revised brochure page.
Has any info about accessory pricing (batteries, etc)
and ordering info for Epic & Scarlet been announced?
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Not yet, AFAIK.

It would also be very interesting to know just the rough ballpark for the minimum accessories to get a barebones camera that "works", as in you're able to record footage with it. Or even what exactly is needed for that ;-)

You know, a crash cam / poor indie config...
 
It's a double-edged sword. On the one hand, announcing a product at the conception stage does allow for input from the public throughout the product's entire journey from conception to design to engineering to manufacturing to distribution.

On the other hand, there's a reason beyond mere secrecy that most companies don't do this. When Apple announces a product, more often than not it is available immediately or within a short period of time. You rarely hotly anticipate an Apple product for more than a month or two. When Steve Jobs lays out a "road map" for a longer-term future, he calls it a "road map" and doesn't try to create immediate anticipation for specific future products that are not ready for distribution. There are exceptions -- the iPhone was teased early (Jobs claimed that public FCC filings would have leaked it otherwise) -- but the rule for Apple is to keep things secret until availability is imminent. The benefit: In general, consumers feel that an Apple promise of a certain product by a certain date will be kept more often than not.

Canon officially announced the 5D2 in September. They apparently remain on track for first delivery by the last week of November. People generally believe Canon when they announce a delivery date, because Canon usually delivers.

Despite the disclaimers about specs and delivery dates, it's clear that many people expected to buy a Scarlet in "early 2009." Now they expect to buy one in mid-2009. If that gets pushed to late-2009, then early-2010, then mid-2010, etc., how long before this emotional rollercoaster of anticipation/disappointment turns into a net negative for Red? Meaning -- compared to the result if Red had just quietly worked on their projects and announced delivery dates only when they were certain to be one or two months away.

Personally, I wince a little when I read some kid on scarletuser talking about his plans to shoot with Scarlet this coming Spring or, "at worst," Summer. If Red delivers, this kid's excitement will be good for Red. But if this kid gets disappointed repeatedly by one projection after another that perpetually puts his Scarlet "just around the corner"? Hard to see how that ends up being good for Red.
 
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