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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

13th responses here...

CrewPix.com said:
That was quite an announcement! Stabilization for moving pictures is completely different from stills. Should be interesting
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Stabilzation might only work in Still mode?

In fact I hope so personally... i've seen weird image jumps using OIS on an hvx..
 
I'm not really impressed...









...oh, gosh, what a terrible joke... shoot me in the head and paint the walls with my brain.
 
i sort of lost track of this forum today, so I don't know if somebody already brought this up. But i hope there will be a way to still use your mini-red lenses when you upgrade a 2/3" to a S35 or FF35 Scarlet.

This uber modular system is crazy! A build it yourself camera system, brilliant! This is what happens when Jim address the demands and needs of RED loyalists. It'd be nice of RED to put together different suggested packages so that we don't forget a piece of the puzzle and can't run our cameras correctly.
 
Khristian said:
Film died on the 13th of November 2008!
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I do believe I've heard this sort of thing before. Seriously can we let go of the death of film thing. Some will always prefer that medium. Plus it isn't like they are available yet. Still this is some really cool news, a truly modular camera system is an amazing development.
Lets see how much the accessories cost.
 
Clairinski said:
i sort of lost track of this forum today, so I don't know if somebody already brought this up. But i hope there will be a way to still use your mini-red lenses when you upgrade a 2/3" to a S35 or FF35 Scarlet.

This uber modular system is crazy! A build it yourself camera system, brilliant! This is what happens when Jim address the demands and needs of RED loyalists. It'd be nice of RED to put together different suggested packages so that we don't forget a piece of the puzzle and can't run our cameras correctly.
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i don't think you'll be able to use your mini red lenses when you upgrade to a 35mm sensor.. those mini-reds are going to be designed to cover the 2/3" chip size and won't be nearly large enough to cover the S35, and especially not the FF35.
 
so i did a test of the file size per frame of footage from the 617. would be around a 1gig per frame of footage in a tiff. I wonder what it would come out at in the raw format and how much per minute, second?
 
vita brevis said:
so i did a test of the file size per frame of footage from the 617. would be around a 1gig per frame of footage in a tiff. I wonder what it would come out at in the raw format and how much per minute, second?
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1g?? Holy moly.. It'll probably be around 200M / frame in r3d
 
Any chance of a 4/3rds mount for the 2/3" Scarlet?
The 2x crop factor compared to 35mm will mean you can go wider than using a Nikon or Canon mount.
Oh, & the High Grade Zuikos are fantastic.
 
I'm curious how they are physically attached together. In the exploded view in one of the renders, there looks to be electronic connection between each module, but how are they held together?

This looks to be fantastic, and I am very excited, but as soon as we can know the price of each accessory, the better. Keep up the amazing work!
 
Ya hopefully, there is a place on the web where you can put in info like megapixel num. and resolution and get a estimate of data size at different formats. even at 200m a frame it wold be 4800m a sec and 288,000 a min. so 28 gigs a min. woo
 
Man, ya'll have lost ya cotton pickin' minds up in here, man! Droppin these bombs up in here like this here.

I Love it!1 :)

Man, stop playing a let us go on place orders. Stop playin, now.

No, seriously. This is amazing! Human ingenuity at it best. Who would've ever done modular to this extent. The Brain concept is absolutely genuis! I'm in....Just say when.
 
At some point the imager resolution just has to stop advancing so quickly - the projector industry can't keep up - not to mention the I/O and storage industries. Crazy-high res is useless if we can't save, process, and view the data. It's hard enough to get theaters to go digital let alone upgrade every 12 months to a projection and distribution system that is double the previous year's resolution.

So while it may be feasible to ramp-up the res every 12 months, I think Red can chill on that now and focus on all the other pieces of the puzzle. They've already leapfrogged over the competition and probably bought themselves a comfortable 2-4 year head start.

28G/min is just mind boggling ... that's like 4TB for a movie and like 16TB in raw footage from the set. Blu-ray can only store like 50G on a dual-layer disk.. that's practically 2 seconds of footage - there's no way hardware (right now) can read an entire blu-ray disk (both layers) in real-time - and it would be a huge feat just to load a machine with that much RAM and buffer the blu-ray disk into memory for smooth playback - all for 2 secs of footage.

It's overwhelming but I love it!
 
weirdcrew said:
You can still get a fully functional Scarlet for $2500 and it gets even better, it's with interchangeable lenses.
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no, you don't get a fully functional scarlet for $2500 (as far as we can tell). what you get is a brain. its missing that killer lens, controls, viewfinder, audio, battery.

i still think what they're offering is amazing, its just looking like 9 months after announcing the first scarlet its now going to cost significantly more.

forgive me if i'm wrong, but details are very sketchy at this point and the math of:
$2500 brain by itself makes the original 3k for 3k seem not likely.
 
Congratulations Jim! It's incredibly hard to drive a stake in the ground and call it good. You've done very well. I look forward to owning both Epic and Scarlet when available. Again, well deserved kudos!

Phil
http://www.artbeats.com
 
vita brevis said:
so i did a test of the file size per frame of footage from the 617. would be around a 1gig per frame of footage in a tiff. I wonder what it would come out at in the raw format and how much per minute, second?
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Yeah, I did the same thing in Photoshop - Just a single color brush swirled across the image took forever and final file size on disk 1.24GB
 
jepn30 said:
I do believe I've heard this sort of thing before. Seriously can we let go of the death of film thing.
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Right. Like all the professional still photographers who still shoot film. I'm sure you might find 1 in 20 or so who do it if you searched. Does that mean still film is dead?

Film's gotta die (although I love it). Is today the day? Only time will tell. I'm thinking we're close (and I was responsible for the exposing of about 1,000,000 feet of film each of the last 10 years).
 
FF35 Epic and the PL less mount issue

FF35 Epic and the PL less mount issue

I believe the specs are just for mounts that will cover the whole sensor, and you can use any mount you wish. From the web pamphlet for epic_scarlet:

"Interchangeable LENS MOUNTS:
Leverage your investment in optics. Sensor Modules support PL, RED, Canon and Nikon Mounts, which may be interchanged as required to suit a specific lens or application. Mounts include power and intelligent lens data interfaces."

So it seems, the answer is there. I think the listing of only full coverage mounts is a smart way to keep things clear. Last thing you want is some disgruntled customer expecting a PL lens to cover a 6K sensor and getting serious vignetting. It seems with the pixel/bucket size difference one would get more resolution from the S35 sensor with a PL Lens than the FF35. But more Dynamic Range may be well worth it!

By the way, thanks to everyone on the Red Team. This definitely is one day that will not be forgotten!!!!
 
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