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$1299 Seiki UHDTV 50" SE50UY04 - Bought it today

i'm going to buy one and use the display port on my graphics card using a hdmi to display port converter then overclock my refresh rate to 60hz.
 
Zack Birlew said:
If the refresh rate is 30hz I'm not sure motion will look very good on that. There were old CRT monitors that had 3K-ish resolution but were geared more towards photography and still frame graphic work due to their low refresh rates. If they really have motion figured out on this set then it truly is an absolute steal!
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For what I can remember from CRT monitors, refresh rate was a greater issue with them, you could see the clear difference between 60 and 75hz, but on a flat panel, not so much.

However, I never tried such low hertage on a flat panel.
 
Petri Teittinen said:
Forget all that. Instead, build a PC with a new-ish GPU from Nvidia or AMD, one that has the new 3GHz HDMI 1.4. That's capable of 4K. Connect PC to display via HDMI and you're off to the races.
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That definitely works, but its a bit limiting... THose things must accept some sort of 4K encoded files, right?
 
Sergio Perez said:
That definitely works, but its a bit limiting... THose things must accept some sort of 4K encoded files, right?
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No. The image is not compressed in any fancy way as it goes down the hdmi cable.
Your computer or 'box' does that type of thing.
 
Sergio Perez said:
That definitely works, but its a bit limiting... THose things must accept some sort of 4K encoded files, right?
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All current mainstream GPUs (Intel, AMD, Nvidia) have 4K video decoding built into the hardware. However, the next generation GPUs are really what you want to invest in since there will be a new HDMI interface out by next year that will give you 4K @ 60HZ.
 
OK John, you might be onto something.

I noticed it says 130watts power consumption on one of the advertisements, this may possibly be a 90% light transmissive IGZO panel from AUO. It is less than half my 42 inch viewsonic, which I think is a 50% light transmissive panel, instead of twice as much (even more with brightness). This is a competing form to the top end Sharp IGZO used in their new almost legendary 4k touch monitor. I too noticed that it had similar Ms response rating. However, I don't know how good it is compared to the bright color rich Sharp, or how well its implemented. You can easily knock down a panels performance with poor filters, light path etc. But to find out, is it OK if I ask you some questions? :

Does it appear to have a wide color gamut, or very wide color gamut?

How good does the picture look in brightness, contrast and color? What brand and price range does it compare to in in store TV's, so I can have a look? The Westinghouse 4k is said to be bright and cheerful for twice the price.

How does the audio sound normal?

A few test questions you might like:
To test if it is really uhd 4k resolution (some people say a TV displays a resolution, but it only inputs and downscales it), could you make a 4k graphic file with two 4k black lines one pixel apart in each direction on a white background, and HDMI it at 4k (uhd that is) and see if the white pixels between both sets of lines are clearly visible?

To test motion blur, mouse cursor in windows see how fast it moves before you see trailing (your eyes should blur it before the panel) over different contrast and color backgrounds to test response (sometimes certain pixel transitions can be twenty times slower)? Grab a couple of menus, windows and move them around? This stuff doesn't have motion blur like footage.

If it passes all those, then you have a bargain. Just a pity it dies not have displayport, or dual HDMI 4kp60.
 
Wayne, I think the character Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory may be loosely based on you '-)

(That's a compliment, BTW... I like Sheldon Cooper.)
 
OK, there appears to be a UHD panel price war that has been going in China for a while, believe it ir not.

AUO was getting a 65% yield on their panels so check your pixels just in case.

I've located another set, a thread here actually (guys I've been asking about 4k TV since last year, nobody said anything). More features and 3D, similar price :) . Which set is better picture? They do up to 84 inch, and might have read they supply Samsung or something.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...yworth-LED-TV-Group-Buy&p=1111410#post1111410

http://www.skyworth.com/en/news-detail-2954.html

http://www.skyworth.com/en/news-detail-3168.html

http://www.skyworth.com/en/news-detail-2997.html

I can't get there product page to work on this. browser to see what other product they have.


I've also hit the mother load in uhd information at digitimes

http://www.digitimes.com/topic/ultra_hd/a001261.html
 
Elsie N said:
Wayne, I think the character Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory may be loosely based on you '-)

(That's a compliment, BTW... I like Sheldon Cooper.)
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Definitely not, he's much more anal (I think he's gay.). ;)
 
I get mine April 25.

How far are you finding yourself sitting from it when using it as a computer monitor ?

I'm thinking of using it as my secondary monitor for 'video' and using the 30" as the main.
I'm sure this company is pissing off the other 'big guys' as they just blew the bottom out of their pricing strategies!
Screw good audio,smart TV features, etc. This is exactly what I need. I wish they made a 42" version tho.
 
Jim Perry said:
John,

I noticed a jpeg of your TV and desktop,
could you post that image here on RedUser...
and maybe more close up shots of screen.

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6658/1299-uhdtv-seiki-50-se50uy04-/p1

thx | Jim
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Same company, different people and posts. Many different eyeballs and fingerprints on the set at this time, as you would guess. The key thing to remember is it's a bargain basement deal on an UHDTV today over single HDMI cable. There's nothing special going on there in that photo, simply a 3840x2160 desktop at 30Hz playing back a DVD (to illustrate scale) and also web browser open. If you have work to do now that could benefit from you actually seeing your pixels, it fits the bill.
 
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Les Dittert said:
I get mine April 25.

How far are you finding yourself sitting from it when using it as a computer monitor ?

I'm thinking of using it as my secondary monitor for 'video' and using the 30" as the main.
I'm sure this company is pissing off the other 'big guys' as they just blew the bottom out of their pricing strategies!
Screw good audio,smart TV features, etc. This is exactly what I need. I wish they made a 42" version tho.
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EXACTLY my point. It does what we need right now at the right price. In two to three years, maybe we'll add to it with a glasses free 3D panel or whatever they pitch then, likely OLED 120Hz. For now, we are set with this bargain. So far, 4-5' away, but that varies depending on text resolution and detail. You can see tiny details and text at arms length away not clearly visible at 4-5'. This set has now replaced the 32" Sharp and the 55" Sony sets I was planning on buying at $4995 or above.
 
Forgot to mention, the reason for the line resolution test in both directions is to test if it uses true rgb pixel or shared pixel scheeme, such as with the pen tile fiasco with the galaxy s screen. They do this to cut down the number of sub pixels, but it cuts down the resolution, and likely the color purity. Not good for straight line graphics and text reading either.


According to this Chimei should be making that panel, same as Hi sense, but maybe not same panel. I have not heard them having IGZO, but if so, that would be great.

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2012/09/faster-4kx2k-slower-amoled-tv/
 
Wayne Morellini said:
Forgot to mention, the reason for the line resolution test in both directions is to test if it uses true rgb pixel or shared pixel scheeme, such as with the pen tile fiasco with the galaxy s screen. They do this to cut down the number of sub pixels, but it cuts down the resolution, and likely the color purity. Not good for straight line graphics and text reading either.
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Hi Wayne- we are happy with it so far- a straightforward 3840x2160 panel with little frills at a great price. We'll update the post with other info and feedback as we go along. You do see the difference between 24 Hz and 30Hz with the mouse and dragging windows tests. Hopefully some other people will post as well with RedRay players for better feedback. We were planning on waiting for a Red projector, but that didn't happen so this is the least expensive option available right now for working with medium format photos, Red files, etc
 
I just ordered one as well... Too tempting to to not at that pricing. I figure worst case I just end up using it as a TV (and I needed a second one anyway). I am hoping with either via multiple HDMI links or via over-clocking I can get the refresh rate up to a more acceptable level.
 
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