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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet and Epic updates...

Stephen Pruitt said:
Sorry, Mark, but that's just baloney. Please READ the doggone marketing materials below. . . which are now on the RED website:

"The RED ONE™ body – designed for flexibility and functionality. Weighing in at 10 lbs, this is a streamlined package specifically designed to maximize your shooting options. Matched with a 35mm PL lens mount, it allows you to take advantage of the world’s finest optics. Modular and upgradeable, the RED ONE™ camera is a future-proof acquisition system you can build upon. RED ONE™’s modular design means you can upgrade with us as we add new features and accessories, as well as benefitting from performance improvements with each new free firmware upgrade."

Either they mean what they say, or they are just as guilty as every other camera manufacturer. Your saying that you can trade in your RED One for an Epic at twice the price hardly makes it a "future-proof acquisition system" in my book. The fact that RED is upgrading some things for free (such as the audio section) was just part of the bargain that came along with RED funding its R&D by releasing a product before it was really ready for market.

I'm all for RED. . . we bought two of 'em. And we shot our first feature on those cameras and currently have two more features in the works. But that doesn't mean I'm going to give them a free pass.

Stephen
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#1 - Please READ the doggone statement below. . . which is now on the RED website:

Specifications, prices and delivery dates are subject to change. Count on it.
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone with a bad attitude.

#2 - FREE PASS? I don't understand you at all. I did NOT say that RED wasn't offering updates to the RED ONE. Last I heard - they WERE - and as far as I know they ARE. I just pointed out (my OPINION) that "Regardless of what Red does or doesn't do with respect to hardware upgrades to RED ONE - I feel like it's impossible to call it "obsolete" -

I dunno ... I guess I am not very good at making a point.
 
First Light Films said:
If you can't figure out the difference between these two candidates, then you are as clueless as the people who elected Bush twice.
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And if you can't see the similarities in the two candidates, maybe you are just a fanboy!:holloween:
 
Jim,

You would make me VERY HAPPY if you add the 3DV DeepC chipset to your cameras. This would me an amazing advancement for VFX work and would be a game changer! I have my fingers crossed.

"In recent years 3DV has been developing DeepCTM, a chipset that embodies the company's core depth sensing technology. This chipset can be fitted to work in any camera for any application, so that partners (e.g. OEMs) can use their own know-how, market reach and supply chain in the design and manufacturing of the overall camera capabilities. The chipset will be available for sale soon."

http://www.3dvsystems.com/technology/product.html
 
Mark, don't have time to argue with you any more than you have time to argue with me on these finer points of language, but I can say that I certainly expect RED to keep the explicit promises they have made to the 5000 RED One purchasers that the RED One will remain on the cutting edge of motion picture imaging technology for years to come.

Certainly, Mr. Jannard has not, to my knowledge, in any way stated that he will not honor this commitment. If I have learned anything about him over the past couple of years, it is that he tries very hard to deliver more than the customer expects. But I suspect that any time he waxes eloquent about his latest offerings, without even a single mention regarding future upgrades to the RED One offering these same advancements, many people will begin to worry. Since the money to upgrade both cameras isn't an issue in my case, it isn't a big deal to me, but I'm willing to bet that over 4000 loyal RED One customers aren't in the same economic boat. They are counting on RED One to continue to be an important part of the RED drive toward technological excellence for years to come.

Stephen
 
Instructions available?

Instructions available?

Would it be possible to post instructions for the Scarlet the moment the news is released on the 13th? Many of us are going to jump straight on it when it comes out but could we at least have something to read in the mean time?
Cheers.
 
Jannard said:
I want to spill the beans sooooooooooo bad. :-)

Must stick to the plan... must stick to the plan....

Jim
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Jim,

even so we share the same day of birth and Gemini sign, you must have come to this world under a completely different MOON, as I would have spilled the Beans all over the place LOOONG ago:) :) can't wait to hear what you guys have done this time!!!
 
Stephen Pruitt said:
But I suspect that any time he waxes eloquent about his latest offerings, without even a single mention regarding future upgrades to the RED One offering these same advancements, many people will begin to worry.
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You are mis-characterizing reality. He has already said (and repeated) that RED ONE will be eligible for a sensor upgrade. The form factor will not change, obviously, although it remains modular and therefore upgradeable. But it seems that they will do all they can to upgrade what it is possible to upgrade.

Making obsolescence obsolete means they did their best to make the best camera that they could and did their best to ensure that its images are future-proofed for many years to come. It means they put their best thinking AT THE TIME into the product they released without deliberately crippling it.

And continue to do so, which means free firmware upgrades, more freebies like RedRushes, sensor upgrades, free CF module upgrades. You talk about how the audio board upgrade is a fix of something that wasn't done right but are conveniently editing out the free enhancements from which we are already benefiting. Why is that?

There is a big distinction between the crippleware/trickleware model and RED's model, and that distinction is the heart of "Making obsolescence obsolete". It doesn't mean that nothing will ever change. It's a promise that they will put their best products and price points together every time. I'm sure that's why they canceled the original SCARLET and EPIC specs in the first place - to make it better in the first release, to give you more, not less of whatever it is.

Whatever "it" is -- guess we will wait and see --
 
number6 said:
And if you can't see the similarities in the two candidates, maybe you are just a fanboy!:holloween:
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I'll point out the difference:

Mccain is like a DVX100... a once great camera limited by the fact that it has a small chip inside. You feel nostalgia for it, but its time has passed.

Obama is like a RED One, taking us into the future. Dynamic range gets better everyday and there is nothing on the market like it.


P.S. Palin is like the camera in my cellphone.
 
Buck Forester said:
That does it... I'm selling all my shares of AIG to buy this camera. Which means, counting my stock losses, the Scarlet will cost me $187,002.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA funniest comment i have EVER seen posted... sorry for your loses. Jim is it the chainsaw we talked about a while back? and why you gotta go and release its big news just as i send my brand new baby Red One out on a rental. I am gonna be going through post partem. You know i am really counting on the R1 being Very Important in this whole Epic/Scarlet thing.oh well i am sure i will enjoy the news, as i mourn the canadian dollar drop from grace.
 
liquidigital said:
I'll point out the difference:

Mccain is like a DVX100... a once great camera limited by the fact that it has a small chip inside. You feel nostalgia for it, but its time has passed.

Obama is like a RED One, taking us into the future. Dynamic range gets better everyday and there is nothing on the market like it.


P.S. Palin is like the camera in my cellphone.
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faaannnnnnn-boyyyyyyyy!

Are you that person I heard about in a Howard Stern interview? When he asked who you were supporting and you said Obama. Then he asked if you then agreed with his view that the surge was a good thing and that we should stay in Iraq for a long, long time?... and you said yes! And then he asked something else like "And you agree that any tax during a recession is a bad thing (or something else that McCain has said) and you said "Yes"! because you thought Obama had said it? That's you, isn't it?!
 
Jeff Coatney said:
Has anyone regretted switching to a Mac and FCP? If yes, why?
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Never been on PC's, but we tried switching from a Mac-based Avid to FCP when Mac and Avid were "fighting" for a while and switched back within a year. It was a full blown FCP system too. So the answer to your question is sort of yes.
 
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